{ "media_type": "text", "post_content": "How to compensate for long term unemployment?\n\nAfter getting let go from McK earlier this year, I've been unemployed for close to 6 months and explaining it to prospective employers is awkward and uncomfortable. \n\nAny advice on how to navigate this?", "post_id": "61227792dec0fd0021151e14", "reply_count": 157, "vote_count": 30, "bowl_id": "552d1d24dc1c586b09d2d051", "bowl_name": "Consulting", "feed_type": "crowd" }
null

How to compensate for long term unemployment?

After getting let go from McK earlier this year, I've been unemployed for close to 6 months and explaining it to prospective employers is awkward and uncomfortable.

Any advice on how to navigate this?

like
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

OP - I can share that as an employer I don’t discriminate against applicants for being “laid off, let go, terminated etc.” unless it was for egregious reasons. Covid has caused all sorts of issues, and quite frankly it is at times hard to figure out why an employer let-go certain employees. I know some superstars who lost their jobs at great firms, and I also know of slackers who weren’t let go and got promoted at some firms! Our firm runs background checks to ensure we aren’t hiring someone who committed egregious acts, as end of the day what matters is whether the candidate can potentially add value to our company. My personal experience plays into this perspective as I’ve been through more layoffs than what I’d like to admit, and it is the same me who excelled at the next employer. At least in my firm we recruit with a very unbiased process, and currently are speaking with a candidate who has been looking for employment for a year. Does it raise a flag, sure, but I want to give the applicant the benefit of the doubt and have him/her provide their reasoning. Most people are honest, though some are not which is why employers have to do their due diligence also. Good luck, and I’d be happy to provide any additional advice.

likehelpfuluplifting

I was laid off in 2020 and was completely honest about that fact. I’m a bit confused why this is becoming a creative writing exercise, OP. In my experience, it was literally a 2 second explanation to account for my service gap and the recruiter & HM didn’t give it a second thought. Good news is I landed a gig way better than what I left and I’m confident you’ll do the same! Honesty is the best policy 99.9% of the time. “I was let go and found myself in a unique position with the gift of time to be very thoughtful and deliberate about my next move, …”

likehelpful
Recent IconRecent

Just tell them “McK was a great place for me to develop my skills and get exposure to a lot of great opportunities. And as I was getting ready to transition to a new role, I had an opportunity to do some traveling and focus on some personal projects (McK is pretty demanding) which was also very fulfilling. Now I’m ready to step into a new role yada yada.”

No need to say anything about “let go” or any of that BS.

likesmartupliftinghelpful

Agreed - as long as you craft a narrative around it that makes sense, people won’t probe deeper.
Say something like “I joined McKinsey where I learn a lot through x y z, but at the end of it felt I was lacking the ownership etc (insert reason here). I took a bit of time to really understand what I wanted next and to work on myself/go travelling/ look after family etc and really found myself draw to this role/industry for reasons.” You preanswer the ‘why did you leave’ question, and give a ‘why this job answer,’ so very few people will reach back and try and dig up skeletons. They just want to move on through and get to more relevant fit questions.

like

Op , create your own LLC . Tell prospective employers you started to work a client directly . Things happen. You will find something you like .

likehelpfulfunny

Taking steps to set the business up and applying for an Llc isn’t lying if he does it, which he can. I’m saying he doesn’t have to lie about already working on contracts. The resume gap is filled with the effort he took to start the Llc, his branding, biz dev etc. he can still legitimately do all of that without lying. It’s much better than saying you had to do some soul searching for half a year. Maybe you’re fine with that, but a recruiter can just toss your resume out for that.

Tell them you were taking a sabbatical/much needed self care break after a stint at McKinsey. So many people are quitting and focusing on life during this pandemic and this is a no brainer. And that you are also being mindful about where you land and are assessing options carefully. The tradition of working non stop with no breaks in your resume is soon becoming a thing of the past. If the folks interviewing you don’t realize this, go somewhere else. Good luck.

likesmartupliftinghelpful

This is so true

6 months not long term. And in this hot economy your skills will be in demand. It’s a simple answer

“I took a break to recharge and am now looking for something I am really passionate about”

likesmartfunny

Yep, say you wanted some time to travel and work on personal projects or whatever it is you're doing to fill your time. If you focus on the positives and you're good otherwise, you should be fine to glaze over it

Lie. Took time off for health reasons. Taking care of a parent back home. They don’t need to know the details.

likesmart

Say - Had to take off for a family medical need, was trying to balance both but got laid off. Looking to get back in the right role but not in a rush.
Interviewing when you have a job vs unemployed is all about mindset. We stress ourselves out and put too many hopes on the line when unemployed (understandably so) and come off desperate in the interview. When you have a job, you are just looking to level up or move on, but the survival stress doesn't kick in.
Find ways to change your mindset, including going over your finances and trimming unnecessary expenses to increase your savings runway. Double down on interview prep. Yoga / meditate / exercise outdoors and focus on your mindset. Let the universe deliver.

likesmarthelpful

The best reason I have ever heard for a gap was:

“I got hit by a car and broke both my legs. I had to spend 2-3 months in the hospital and then had to relearn how to walk.”

Turned out to be totally fake since there were photos, but they went to MBB and Top MBA and still there so 🤥.

funnylike

I had an employee who I inherited, who was hit by a semi-truck while driving. She milked it for 2 years of LTD. Until one day, I got a reference check request for her across the country. Not sure what she was thinking putting me down (someone who she never actually worked with) as a reference while I'm LTD...

likesmart

What do you think led to your lay off?

likesmart

Late to the party, m8.

Say you took a break to travel around and recharge

like

I will second this or I would be open about it. Consulting is a tough job and many people
are not cut for it. There is no shame or wrong in accepting that. Any one who judges you for that (like some of the big 4 peeps here) I would avoid that company.
You have certain skills thats the reason you were hired at McK.

So to summarise:

1. I would be honest and share the reason, whatever that may be.
2 Or if you prefer not to share. Time off to travel is the safest bet here.

like

Lmk if you want a referral for Deloitte

likefunny

Classic.

likefunny

OP, I could certainly be wrong, but I think potentially the anger/defensiveness you’re showing on this thread is coming off in your interviews. I would start with trying to collect your feelings on being let go. I was fired from my first job 8 years ago - I understand how much that stings. The anger, disappointment, etc has to stay out of interviews though. If you seem evasive around questions regarding the transition, that’s what would stand out to me as a red flag. Figure out how you grew from this experience and will be better in the next one - that will allow you to tell a convincing and honest story.

like

I see a lot of comments on the "weird" way I'm communicating.

I was advised previously that "no one needs to know you were counseled out". I assume that advice came from a reasonable place.

I did get counseled out.

I didn't have experience in consulting before this. My learning curve was slower than it should've been in the remote work environment. When I got a "concerns" in my first review from my DGL, I didn't see it coming and I was counseled out shortly after. I had a successful career before this and a strong academic record so it definitely was a gut punch.

I hope that provides clarification for those who were looking for it.

like

Sorry to hear, best of luck with the search. A <1yr gap can usually be explained by taking time off to do personal projects, lead nonprofit work, travel, soul search, etc. Especially coming from a reputable firm, you might find employers won't be too concerned about the gap.

Regarding the advice about not mentioning you were counseled out: agreed that you shouldn't voluntarily share that info. But if multiple people directly ask if you were counseled out and you keep dodging the question... that is definitely weird, no subjectivity to it. Good luck regardless

like

Say as little as possible about the reason you left McK. Anything you say can open the door in a conversation with someone you list as a reference. While your former employer is limited in what they can say and most will only confirm dates of employment and (sometimes) final salary, personal references are not under the same legal constraints. If you say something that sounds the least bit fishy, a savvy reference checker will ask your personal references about it. So don’t lie, but don’t offer up a seemingly plausible “explanation” with no basis in reality either.

“It was time to move on” or “it wasn’t a good fit” are the right answers to this question.

like

Were you fired for cause? Or let go as part of a downsizing and, thus, eligible for unemployment insurance payments?

likehelpful

Dude. Being CTLed from McK means that you made it here in the first place. Which is an achievement in itself, and nobody will understand being CTLed to be a bad thing. When you try to wordsmith your way around that, people start to pay attention because they suspect something worse - a values problem, for example.

So own it - but also, still no reason to broadcast it in potential interviews. Build a story and be creative.

like

No transition period at McK?

likesmart

Transition at BCG goes by role, not tenure: 2 months for A/C, 3 months for PL, 4 months for Pr/Pa. You have the option of taking twice as much time at half pay, meaning principals on transition can stay on payroll with benefits for 8 months. Stack with parental leave and some vacation and you can be off for a year.

likehelpful

You’ll be ok OP. Market is hot right now and you can simply say you took time off for Covid/personal reasons. Any reasonable employer won’t probe further.

like

If it makes you feel better, consulting is extremely relationship driven. I have struggled with remote too. For example, you have to make sure you have a professional digital presence, lighting etc., speaking well, pick up on client non-verbal cues etc. Keep your chin up and move on to the next gig.

like

How long were you at McKinsey and other employers? There is a difference between someone who spent 3 month there and was let go vs someone who spent 10 years there. I assume you fall somewhere between those two extremes.

like

Associate

like

Related Posts

Top performers that quit audit: how was your experience leaving your group? Did management try to keep you or persuade you out of moving? What type of role did you leave for?

Interested in stories..

like

Why are there so few SOM interview invites on ClearAdmit? Have they gotten more selective or just not as many people applying?? Still waiting to hear back 😫

like

Any MBB A/C/M/SM willing to connect and have a quick chat? Looking to make an experienced hire transition from Deloitte S&O, would appreciate any insights. Thanks in advance y’all, seriously.

like

Can anyone working at UBS tell me their military time off benefits? Do they offer paid days for military leave throughout the year (and if so how many)? Do they offer deferential pay for extended absences such as deployments? Working with some recruiters right now, but I can’t get a clear answer.

like

Was just told that because I’m a better/ more strategic employee and have contributed more than my team that the expectations for me are higher than for others and that the reward is more work and brand building at the same position/pay. I’m scratching my head here and trying to understand what the logic is behind that statement and where it comes from. Can anyone please explain this to me?

funnylikeuplifting

Thoughts on giving 2 weeks while in the middle of an interview process? Pretty burnt out from work/ working 60-80 hours a week for the last year and my mental health is at an all time low. Any tips on how to spin this to recruiters?

like

Very much burnt out and want to take some time off (>3 weeks) but was told I was needed for v important work.... finding a replacement didnt seem to be an option

like

Planning to book a return Qatar airways flight to India with return in October. Anyone have any experience with rescheduling if required due to Covid? Are they as helpful as typical American Airlines. My last experience with European / Chinese airlines wasn’t good.

like

EY vs ACN. Having a difficult time knowing is I should leave EY for a comparable position. Anything you would have wanted to know before joining ACN leaving EY? TIA.

like

Anyone have insight into the culture at Adobe? specifically in a professional services standpoint. A good exit opp from a WLB standpoint? Seems like an awesome company.

like

Hello fishes,
Can someone help me referral in Deloitte, KPMG or any organisation for Business Analyst role. Please help me out serving notice period.
Yoe - 3.4
Current CTC -5 LPA
Skills- Business analysis, requirement gathering, Agile, Jira, customer relationship management, project management, product delivery, sdlc e.t.c
Preferred location - Bangalore or Hyderabad

Thanks in advance

like

Likely not the place to successfully solicit but what the heck - has anyone recently started a side hustle business with the full intent (hope) of scaling it out and leaving their corporate role?

If so, are you looking for people to partner with/join your team? I’ve badly wanted to start a business for a while just haven’t had the courage to start on my own.

If you’re receptive of the possibility please DM me. Only 5 YOE but am fully confident I’d be an asset regardless (in a non-tech role).

likesmart

What are some of the more lucrative positions/job titles for Senior Consultant exit opps? Feeling burnt out in consulting, and don’t have aspirations of making MD. Roughly 4-5 YOE

like

Anyone know what the interview process looks like for a Product Growth Analyst at Meta? Also, any idea on how technical this role is? First round of interviews coming up.

like

What should I expect on an EY super day? Interviewing for advisory - performance improvement - life sciences. Any tips to succeed?

like

Deloitte Peeps- do you all just book PTO when you are sick?

like

How to ask someone to mentor you? Do people usually do it for free? I once interviewed with a manager at Kearney but couldn't get the job. He was so nice and we have a similar career progression. İt's been 6 months. Would it be ethical to ask him to mentor me?

like

Hi,
I'm working as a doc controller in an eng firm. I have done masters in marketing lol.
After covid i DO NOT want to go to office. I want to work from home.
What are the jobs I must be looking for ???
I'm also on mat leave right now and hoping to switch jobs before I start

like

Does anyone know how Specialist Consultants differ from regular consultants at MBB?

like

Looking to hire a PPC performance marketing manager or director for an in house (and in office) position in LA. Message me for details.

like

Additional Posts

What are the top3 apps you open most frequently ?

like

I have few offers to decide the comparatively better option based on salary, wld, and security

JPMorgan Chase: 25 LPA FIXED
Dell (product enginnering) : 26 LPA FIXED
Publicis Sapient : 25 LPA FIXED
Morgan Stanley : 26 fixed

5.4 yoe,
Skillset: java, hibernate,spring,docker,kqfka

It will be very helpful if you can suggest with some reason.

like

Anybody want to share their experience as an AE for ADP or any HRIS and small business sector? Looking to transition into tech/SaaS sales. What can I expect day to day to look like from not having quote on quote “tech” sales? And what are my comp structures going to look like? Located in Seattle

likesmart

Thinking of taking a break and being a stay at home mom for sometime.. main reasons for taking this decision is: I haven’t had good luck with a full time nanny for my 10 month old baby (continued)

like

Do people hang out with each other indoors without masks? It’s my friends bday and Idk if it’s okay to hang out at her house

like

Anyone have any ideas for the best way to introduce my parents to my girlfriends parents other than a sit down dinner? Want it to be more informal and fun... We have been dating for like 7 months

like

Why are people so selfish? Mark Zuckerberg gave $25M (more then most of us will ever make in a lifetime) to COVID research and all I see is people complaining about how he should have given more. Why?

like

Hi fishes, I got an offer from Tata Consultancy should I wait for the Back ground check to complete or can I resign and proceed further since notice period is around 90 days

like

I have my life only license need to add health to it. Don't see the test or exam prep for just adding health and accident, do I have to take my life test again in order to add health?

like

Discount code for tumi bags?

like

green leaves Peddler contacts in kharadi or nearby areas? DM me

like

Can anyone help me on this -
How is teksystems in terms of WLB and job security for bangles location for some health care client.
Yoe is 9 years as Java Developer.

like

Status in the 70s. Give me some of that charcuterie!

Post Photo
likeuplifting

Any reviews on working in middle office at Citadel in NYC? Hours, comp/bonus, work/life, PTO, culture, etc.

like

What's the vibe on Anomaly? Good atmosphere? Heard there are no timesheets and good client roster.

like

I’m interested to know what a bunch of lawyers’ thoughts are in prenuptial agreements. Thoughts?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
Download Fishbowl to see what others are saying
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the Fishbowl app

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal