How would you rank the Big 4 Strategy shops (Deloitte S&A, S&, P-EY, KPMG Strat) in terms of general quality (pay, exit opps, quality of colleagues, visibility to C-Suite, etc.)?

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Interesting how the acquisitions really affected the perception of B4 Strategy shops. Prior to 2014, Deloitte S&O would have been #1 with no real competition among the Big Four.

It seems that PwC / EY’s acquisitions were much more successful than Deloitte’s acquisition of Monitor.

Would also echo the general sentiment that S& > EYP > S&A > KPMG.

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The issue with Deloitte isn that they made the conscious decision to destroy the Monitor brand, internally and externally, and to drastically reduce pay for anyone not a direct-from-MBA hire.

I’m talking USA only.

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I have to rank S&A first solely because I landed a FAANG exit op from this practice. I’ll caveat that I’m in the A half of S&A, am a data nerd, not a strategy nerd, and am going into data science.

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S&A not S&. No I’m in S&A, gave notice, going to FAANG. I also got tons of interviews in corp strat, vc, pe, etc. Deloitte has been great for me. I think the debate over which second tier firm is best is hilarious though. Measuring peepee’s over which firm gets to overwork you to death for marginally more peanuts is asinine. And you couldn’t pay me enough to go to MBB. So glad to be out of consulting.

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S& > EYP > Big D >>> KPMG

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EYP & S& are definitely top two. However (this is just my opinion and based on personal experience), I would rank EYP as number 1 (pay and culture). So, EYP>S&>S&A>KPMG.

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We are. Top tier bonus is 36% I believe

To get <20% bonus, you’d have to be in the bottom half of rankings

S& is the top of T2, along with K, OW, and maybe LEK. EYP is up there as well.

Deloitte and Accenture are a half tier below.

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All the S& guys 😂😂😂😂😂

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You spelled EYP wrong.

1. Dylan
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3. Dylan
4. Dylan
5. Dylan

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It’s interesting that my undergrad’s perception is so different than this app, most ppl ik regarded D > S&

(I’m at a different T2)

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D1, I moved from D to S& in the last couple of years. Feel your pain — hang in there.

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Based on pay and type of work (bill rates drive comp & type of clients)
1. S&
2. EY-P
3. S&O
4. KPMG Strat
LEK, ATK, OW probably similar tier & pay as 1&2. ACN Strat is closer to 3.

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ACN Strat would be above Deloitte S&A IMO. They pay markedly better than big D and I think most people end up choosing them over D, myself included.

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Call me biased but 1. EYP 2. S& 3. S&O 4. KPMG.
S& comes close to EYP. S& salaries probably a little better. EYP better culture, bigger practice, fast and slow projects, agile promotions and overall better future outlook.

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Agreed - 100% co-sign this statement. At the end of the day, may be splitting hairs between the top two (S& vs. EYP), in terms of talent and work quality; BUT, as someone with prior S& experience (hence my informed perspective), EYP wins on culture. Former colleagues still at S& are trying to bolt because of culture. For me, culture is HUGE! So, my advice to Op (and/or others), speak with/interview with both firms and THEN determine with which firm you’re a better fit. No one else can decide that critical factor for you.

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S& hands down
Then EYP
Deloitte
Kpmg

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EYP
S&
Deloitte S&A*
KPMG

*After the reorg of 3 years ago, the legacy S&O got severely diluted. Now, if we only include Monitor and/or Doblin (and exclude S&A), then Deloitte takes 2nd place.

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It’s unlikely that someone here has worked for multiple of those companies listed. So at best, what you see here is a student’s POv from someone who recently graduated from bschool.

For what it’s worth, i have worked with multiple EY-P alums who were my clients, and they were all great to work with. (Data points = 2) So i assume the culture at EY-P is great.

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Between EYP and S&, it’ll likely come down to preference of interviewer (assuming that performance is the same).

I will say that eyp’s reorg hurt it - potentially. I’ll also say that S&’s integration into PWC was a disaster and we’re finally figuring it out.

This is fascinating. I left b-school 5 years ago and would have never even considered EY. Was clearly S& followed by S&O. How the turntables have turned.

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Yup. That’s right.

Can you share your firm, title, yoe, and tc (base plus bonus)? Also note MBA or no-MBA. GO!

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I’m biased, but in undergrad it felt clear to me that S& was the best non-MBB, which is why I chose it.

Our comp is on par with MBB until director/partner and we have a lot of really strong C-suite relationships / blue chip clients, so I have always felt that I made the right choice.

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We have open positions across most groups and seemingly at all levels...

The reason I rank S& and OW over LEK and EYP is that the latter two don’t have the breadth of the former two. For example, I can’t see anyone turning down LEK for CDD work, but does LEK really have the breadth of the others?

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