HR people — it's time to come clean. What happens when an employee complains about managers/CDs+? To complain or not complain? That's my question.

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HR is there to protect and serve the company.... not you.

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Don’t complain. You’ll be outed as a complainer and nothing will get done. Unless your complaint violates an hr rule, it’s ‘not their job'

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HR is toothless unless you are complaining about someone they are building a case to fire. It’s better to find like minded people to lodge complaints together rather than be a 1 off.

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I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again. If you work for IPG Mediabrands or any one of their related companies, do not go to HR. They are not helpful and enable abusers to be vindictive.

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HR exists solely to protect the company. Employees have no allies in that department what-so-ever. The sooner people realize this, the better off they’ll be

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I remember when I went to HR and they simply said “Oh, yeah. We got a looooot of stuff on THAT guy.” as she was filling out a complaint. Then... maybe.......... fire...... him?

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@ad1 I certainly wouldn't go to HR about stuff like the google docs. That makes you look like a crybaby and a whiner--that shit is for you to figure out a way to deal with as an adult. Consider that management and HR is hardly ever responsive to real abuse like screaming, raging, sexual assault.

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what kind of evidence do we need to provide when it comes to reporting? i’ve gone to HR for a coworker who would bully me (ie kick me off google docs i needed to do my job, for starters, and delete things i’d write). she ended up getting promoted and i got demoted. recently i told my HR about my sexist creative director in my exit interview (since my last incident got me demoted i now fear going to HR for anything) and gave specific examples but he’s obviously still there 6 months later.

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The only way I'd go to HR is if I'd talked to a lawyer first and 1. Knew my complaint was legit and actionable and 2. Had key phrases memorized that my lawyer said to use. It's a game and you need to know the code words that will make them realize you're serious enough to sue.

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Unless it’s something horrific. Don’t complain to HR. You’ll get a bad rep. Work it out with people. Better in the long run for you and your career. HR is there to protect the company.

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HR is not in the business of settling inter coworker squabbles and stuff either. You should be talking to your boss about issues with shitty coworker behavior. And have proof.

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Even the ones who get fired just waltz over to another agency and get new jobs. You, on the other hand, get a rep for being “difficult” and “angry”. I’m all for Times Up but I see what happens and I’m...skeptical.

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Only complain when the rest of your team + others can back you up.

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