I am seeing a lot of people make a transition from B4 to FAANG, and interestingly MDs at B4 are coming at L7/E7 levels... so it means B4 MDs make less than L7/E7. For some reason I always thought B4 MDs earn close to a Million dollars.. but looks like I am wrong. I always thought MDs are like CEO!! What am I missing?

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The comp band of the partner level is wider than the comp band of any other firm level by far.

At my firm - just to give an example - I made between $400K and $500K in my first year as a partner. Made about $2M last year. My title was the same.

The $2M or $5M partner isn’t taking a mid-management job at Facebook.

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It depends on how titles are allocated at companies. Many places have lots of svps and vps where it’s c-level minus 4+ and it’s basically middle management. In other places being an Svp is c-level minus 1-2 and that’s a different ballgame.

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As a former B4 partner who is now at the top of the L7 band I did find it interesting that FAANG companies are indeed competitive on comp (not for the upper tier of B4 p’ship but for many) ... for me it was after 20 years in consulting (6 as a partner) I wanted to do something different and exciting ... 8 mos in and I am enjoying it ... it’s not all unicorns and lollipops but no place is! Life’s too short not to break the mold and try something new!

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MDs and most partners are middle management equivalent in these tech companies.

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Hi OP! I have an interview with Apple coming up, how do I know what the L/E level is for a given company? I know L7 means level 7, so 7 promotions from an entry level, but it this indicated by YOE for a given job description? Some jobs at Apple ask for 3-6YOE in consulting but you’re title is “Analyst”....appreciate any guidance here!

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Hard to tell from job posting but u can ask the recruiter. Not familiar with apple levels... but check levels.fyi

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