I can’t wait for the numbers to go up again for the states that reopened up this week and next so I can see what is everyone’s reaction. People have to accept consequences of their own actions.

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What do you even mean? Closing down wasn’t so the virus would miraculously vanish; it was to not overwhelm a state’s health facilities. Numbers will rise regardless of when a state reopens. How do you not know this?

Instead, try this post: I hope that all those affected by the disease when their state reopens have the appropriate care.

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You’d have to be an idiot to think going to the beach or for a hike is a prime source of new infections. We’ve lost our collective minds from fear: and now we’re making stupid decisions as a result.

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I hope the opposite happens, because then lock down will be lifted everywhere faster. Explosions of deaths in other states not only is awful, but also portends an even longer slog for the rest of us. Ugh.
I think they’re dumb AF, but wouldn’t it be nice if the openings go well!

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Delete this. This isn’t a good thing Op

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Well that’s a horrible thing to say.

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OP, I understand where you’re coming from but I don’t think the people dying are the same morons that you see in protests. One of the dead was the dining services manager of my university. There’s humanity behind the numbers, if one of those people was somebody you care about, would you change your tune? Also, it’s easy to say this as someone who can work from home. The sad truth is, this economic “boom” has been wildly uneven and tens of millions dont know how they’ll survive so I can understand their desperation. Wishing death on people trying to regain their livelihood is poor taste

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As is my mother. But I’m not going to wish death on other people so I get “i told you so” points

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Well people have to learn to accept the consequences from their own actions. Nothing more important than life lessons. They are going to have to learn the reality the hard way.

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Don’t fool yourself. It’s the poor and the destitute who have to go out and take risks while the privileged lock themselves in their fancy home offices. The lockdown just makes the poor poorer.

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You could have definitely framed that better

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No. Just no. Wishing illness and possible death on your fellow humans isn’t justifiable under any conditions.

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The fact is I don’t wish them. They are bound to happen anyways. And people just don’t listen.

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Honestly, I’m with you OP. Experts are predicting a second wave in the fall, and if we keep things locked down for awhile without a ton of cases, state and local govts will be resistant to lock down again in 6 months.

I agree with the hammer and the dance strategy (google it) and would rather ppl get sick with reopening now and go “oh shit this actually is serious” so there isn’t pushback to a second round of lockdown this winter.

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Of course the numbers are going to to up - they know it will. We aren't lifting restrictions and expecting less cases. We willingly choose to lift restrictions and expect more cases, as long as it's manageable and the hospitals don't get overwhelmed.

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You have to make hard tradeoffs in policy all the time. Is the damage caused by lockdown worth what’s saved? If you make it all about individuals, you can never make effective or informed decisions.

The lockdown approach is unsustainable. We will not be able to survive it, period. What happened to the “flatten the curve” narrative? Lockdown was never going to end the virus, only fend it off till we had capacity to manage it.

We’ve convinced ourselves it will solve Coronavirus, it won’t. It will just destroy us in the process.

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Numbers are obviously going to spike, it's about being prepared for it.

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By staying home. I’m never going in to office again.

Yikes

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Alternatively, those states could reopen and people could STILL stay home.

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Hopefully that’s what will happen in reality and that will help save lives.

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You realize that the people who are running around outside are not necessarily going to be the one that die, right? Are we assuming that those who got sick "deserved" it? Because you clearly need to do some more research.

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At the expense of someone else's life potentially. I can't view that as anything but sad. We have truly failed as a society if we can somehow spin this as a "good" thing.

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Getting your rocks off by saying “I told you so” is no way to go through life.

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Just remember folks, being right is the most important thing in life! 👍🏻

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We were supposed to flatten the curve- not make it vanish. A lockdown just buys time to ramp up vents and hospital capacity so that herd immunity has a chance to occur.

How long do you want to continue destroying the working class for? A year? Two years? There are already over 30 documented mutations of the virus- a vaccine will only help so much. This country is not built to survive an 18 month lockdown.

It can, however, survive through a pandemic- it has before. And this pandemic is unique in that it disproportionately impacts the elderly, who do not need to be out in public anyways, who do not make up a majority of our workforce, who can be protected in other ways.

I really hope we can all survive this. There are ways to be safe that still allow for innovation to help mitigate the human cost of this. Drive-in church services. Masks and gloves, everywhere. Grocery delivery and special hours for high risk individuals. Closing access to nursing homes, and those who work in them. Allow healthy adults to determine what level of risk they are willing to take.

We do not have to limit buying car seats at Walmart or whatever the hell else to get through this.

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