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I don’t know if I’m from a different generation but I can’t believe I have to ‘set expectations’ w my analyst to at least check their email *once* on the weekend to see if anything’s blowing up

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I think this type of post is a classic example of the 'say-do' gap we often experience in our organisations. As leaders, we rightly push life balance as we know the destructive effects of overwork and stress have on ourselves and our colleagues, but, in the same breath, we place demanding loads on our people...creating an unethical dissonance that hurts our people and our industry.

Although I never expected people to work weekends, as a Director in EY, I know my teams do and I certainly did as well. 3 months ago I felt a 'pop' in the back of my head, a lot of pain, and ended up in hospital with a suspected bleed on the brain.

Whilst the end result was not a bleed, the occupational health team have been laser-like clear that this was a result of cumulative stress and without something materially changing, a stroke is a real possibility.

After several bouts of therapy, I have finally internalised how dangerous my work ethic and mindset was. And indeed that of my colleagues and peers.

Posts like this can seem innocuous but they are part of a more dangerous, larger problem. Ultimately, when I was off, EY did not fall over. The company did not go bust. I am not irreplaceable. And therefore, the work is not life or death either, and it is not reasonable to ask people to head down a path that at best compromises their personal life and general wellbeing, at worst has serious life (possibly even fatal) repercussions.

So leave your analyst alone. Do not expect them to check every weekend. Yes if you're in the middle of a genuinely major thing and this weekend - and this weekend only - you might need them to be alert to what's going on / pitch in a little, then fine ask for their support. But making it conditional and part of every weekend means they can never switch off and never truly de-stress, and that is destructive and harmful.

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OP do you have any jobs going? 40hrs a week sounds epic.

P.S. will work weekends for emergencies, but only if the idiot who decided on a 9am Monday SteerCo eats a hand grenade.

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When I joined my previous employer, I was asked at the interview if I understood that this is not a 9-5 and some off-hours work may be needed. In that role i worked only one Sunday in 2 years. That weekend, the client CEO sent feedback late on Friday. We had a key readout on Monday, so I took initiative to ensure that we are ready. If I led this initiative, I would've told my team to check emails over weekend, but also that anything left by Sunday 5pm I would do.

My takeaways from this thread are:
- some people absolutely refuse to work weekends. That's ok, but I probably wouldn't want them on my team
- some people do their best to avoid weekend work and expect leaders to support them in setting expectations while pushing back on clients to eliminate/minimize weekend work. Those ARE the people I'd want on my team
- some people like to work weekends. That's fine. It's not fine if they expect their teams to adhere to similar schedules. If they do, they are NOT people I want on my team
- it is a leader's responsibility to set expectations at the beginning of a project, and before a deadline that may result in off-hours work. It's also their responsibility to try to avoid this kind of work and stay as closely as possible to said expectations
- a strong analyst proactively manages upwards, letting leadership know that expected client deliverables haven't arrived in time and proposing a solution to this

Happy to take feedback on this. I am here to learn, like OP and many others

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I decline meetings where all I’m expected to do is listen, and I do my best to “stack” meetings together on certain days and block time on other days so I have some uninterrupted time to get my actual work done.

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This is one of many reasons my work laptop/phone are placed in my backpack and stored in the closet.

Is the project burning down around us?

No? Then we’ll deal with it Monday.

Yes? Then we’ll still deal with it Monday.

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Git good lol, your analyst isn’t being paid enough to carry your bad project management over the weekend

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This thread is honestly a breath of fresh air. My newly formed practice has been slowly indoctrinated with more of this archaic thinking, I’m so glad to see so many people here push back and advocate for their people.

AKA: time to quit to sunnier pastures lol

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Sounds like a lot of the commenters here don’t have analysts owning their own work stream. If it’s true that your firm doesn’t require analysts to have ownership over their module and drive work forward I can see how it is on you as a director to manage their work planning. But frankly it sounds like a lot of micromanagement. If they were assigned a task and they know the deadline for the meeting then it’s up to them to make things work and manage the client relationship. If there’s a true roadblock that prohibits work from getting done then they would need to flag it to their manager.

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If you need an analyst to check their email regularly on a weekend they aren’t the issue, it’s you.

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My mind is blown that most people on this forum aren’t already checking email and working on the weekend, at least when the client is driving that work. 

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The issue isn’t about who does or doesn’t, it’s about CHOICE! Doing it out of bad habit or boredom vs. being required to... and it’s not just “scrolling the inbox” , or even a one liner response, but there was an expectation of completing a task that required an action beyond the Inbox

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You’re simply not that important.

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Why would you think we have a 7 day work week? Do your work on Friday. If you did poor planning, you continie on Monday. Not Sunday!

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Op - not sure where you went to hide but I sincerely hope you do read these comments and this gave you an opportunity to grow as it sounds like you are a new people manager.

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In this thread: a bunch of consultants who would say “yes, sir” and do weekend work without question, telling everyone that weekend work isn’t expected

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I can’t speak for everyone, but I think there’s a difference between saying yes to doing work on the weekend when it’s needed and having the expectation that you be available and responsive every weekend.

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OP I’ll help you out

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I never check my email on the weekend wtf is wrong with you

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This reminds me of the story about the Chinese high tech executives who visited California. They wanted to set up visits with tech companies and were shocked to hear that the companies were closed on Saturdays. We used to assume some weekend work was normal. And we saw many companies where employees went the extra mile. This generation doesn’t have the same dedication to work. That’s fine but it will result in lower productivity, lower incomes and reduced likelihood of US economic dominance. Europe is there already and many people like the better work life balance. Expect our kids to work for Chinese multinationals.

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Lmao. Dude, work hours have 0 correlation to both personal and macro economic output. 🤡

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I have no sympathy if you couldn't be bothered to call them.

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At Accenture, the new joiner orientation tells you NOT to send any emails on the weekend. #trulyhuman

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Sorry OP you're in the wrong here. At the VERY least, if you are expecting something might blow up on the weekend, on Friday say something like

"hey let's just keep an eye out for any emails that come through this weekend. Don't think we need to do too much work but maybe an hour or so of clean up in case things blow up."

As an analyst I'm more than happy to work on the weekend as long as I'm given a heads up on the time and level of effort.

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That’s a bad expectation to set. If it’s truly an emergency and it can’t wait til Monday which can’t imagine why it couldn’t. That takes a phone call and seeing if they are available to help, not expect.

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Everyone agrees. Call or text if something is in fire during weekend. OP you are dumb.

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Yeah, OP... this is how you lose talent.

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