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Rising Star
I draw the line at sports. The Lia Thomas situation was unfair to ciswomen. You don’t get to go through male puberty, swim on the men’s team, then transition and start out swimming women who have trained for decades with periods and all the stigma and crap that cis women have to go through. Trans women have their own struggles, but they are not the same struggles cis women have lived with and many trans women in fact have in fact benefited from the patriarchy.
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This! Well said.
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What transphobia do you speak of? I think women just want to be called women and nothing else. We just want to be left alone really. You don't see men try to redefine the definition of man or come up with a new inclusive term.
Rising Star
Yes. This exactly. We don’t want to be called “birthing people” or “people with uteruses”. Cis women are women. Trans women are trans women.
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Love this!
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Agreed, the definition of what is “feminine” or a “woman” is already so narrow in terms of how we can look, behave, and want for ourselves, and so much of it is dictated by male-run media execs who have been telling us how to be and what to like for decades.
We’re smart and don’t need to accept what the “traditional” definitions of femininity and womanhood are.
If we want to push the envelope on what womanhood means and not base it off of a narrow standard of beauty, desire/ability to have children, or way of behaving, then why not include trans women in the conversation too rather than gatekeep?