I feel so odd asking. Did anyone decide to not vaccinate a healthy two year old? I am struggling giving it to him for some reason. And I believe in vaccines…

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Nope, both my kids have all their vaccines. It may help that my best friend is an attending at a pediatric ICU. Hearing from her about how all these once healthy kids/toddlers were struck down by covid, or that some teenager’s lungs will never be the same, he’ll never be able to run cross country like he used to made it a pretty easy call.

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I did the same, my daughter and I had the milder strain of covid back in May, ER doc thought it was the flu, no one treated us wore mask. They tested us for the flu, we were weak, and lethargic. My daughter was 3 at the time. Muscle fatigue was bad, we both had fevers as well. When the doc came back in and wouldn’t come near us, I mean he was as far as he could get back against the wall with a mask on, and announced it was covid… my then three year old was asleep on me…. He also mentioned he had a son her age. It would’ve been comical at how fast he got out of there after providing care instructions if I didn’t know how serious covid is.

She had her four year appointment yesterday and we got her first dose of the Pfizer vax because covid, even the milder strains took us out for two weeks. Better safe then sorry. It’s not going anywhere. We’re cautious and live our lives. We’ve had it twice. I hesitated but I also did my research, asked questions and got vaxed myself. I am high risk ( I have predisposition to blood clots) I got the Pfizer vaccine myself and chose that for her because of the lack of symptoms afterwards for her as well.

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We vaccinated ours as soon as possible. Vaccine hesitancy is a logical fallacy, you’re too worried about the potential unknown side effects of the vaccine because you will be affirmatively choosing to expose your child to it and that’s scary. However, you’re not worrying enough about the known side effects of COVID (like MIS-C, long term lung damage, heart damage, etc.) because it’s a thing that isn’t sure to happen. COVID, while less likely to kill children, is still more likely to harm your child than the vaccine is. I couldn’t forgive myself if my child ended up in the hospital from a disease with a vaccine I chose not to give them.

Additionally, even if you don’t think it’s necessary for your child, you’re not taking into account that your children interact with other people. Unvaccinated people are more contagious than vaccinated people are, and unless you keep your child in a bubble, your kid is around vulnerable people. Something like 1/3 of Americans have preexisting conditions. You don’t know who is vulnerable by looking at them (the daycare teacher with asthma, the grocery clerk with hypertension, the neighbor with diabetes, etc.). You have a responsibility to the community as well as to your child.

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No. I do it as soon as it is available. It helps my kids to see the result if the disease they are protecting against. What does measles look like — oh how awful.

And I also explain that for vaccines to work, the vast majority have to do it. If we aren’t willing to do it, we should not participate in society. Eg flu. As my husband (doctor) said one, “Today I saw a healthy, no underlying conditions, 20 year old runner come in and die of the flu. And that happens so many times each year.” People think they survived it one years ago not realizing it can and does kill.

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Human bodies are amazing - we have these awesome brains that work hard to advance science. We can use that to further advance medicine and stay healthier as a society. 😉

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We have decided to stop all vaccines for our kids. We have a 5 and 9 yr old. We noticed a big behavior change in our now 9 yr old after his 5 yr old visit. It took a few months and it was like a totally different kid. Now he’s dealing with sensory processing issues. So this was a big reason why we stopped. We had a long talk with our new pediatrician who is on a more natural path to well care. It was a group decision and she explained many things well. We are very proactive with our health by other means

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This whole thread is so heartbreaking. Wish you could turn back time, for your kids

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Struggling giving it to him like you just feel bad because shots suck and kids don’t understand? Trust me, they forget it very quickly and are super grateful when they don’t get polio.

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Yes, I vaccinated my healthy two year old for COVID as soon as she was eligible and she has all her other vaccines as well. Because I want her to stay a healthy two year old. And she is much, much more likely to have complications from COVID than from a vaccine injury. And those could be long term complications, life changing or even life ending complications. And not just for her. She could pass it to her grandparents, her daycare friends (or anyone in our community really). (I know people keep saying it's a personal decision, but it's really a community decision and I find this soo frustrating).

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Wait. No one is arguing that vaccinated people *never* get sick and *never* transmit. But what people *are* saying is that you can REDUCE the transmission and REDUCE your odds of getting really sick by significant amounts. That seems like a win to me. That is also consistent with the studies I showed, so unclear which part of what was said was "rubbish".

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My 12 year old has all vacinnes but not the one for covid. First of all its not been approved and there is no emergency anymore. Second, does anyone know or heard of a child dying or having serious trouble due to covid? The chances are so extremely low, much lower than serious complications from the vaccine. And third, the jab does not prevent transmission. My entire family is not jabbed and we have been healthy during the entire time, unlike our jabbed friends and colleagues.

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Yes, my nephew almost died from covid. He was 1. It was touch and go for a few days. His parents weren't going to vaccinate him, but when they saw how bad he had it, they decided to vaccinate him as soon as the doctor allowed it (they would have to wait a few months after the infection ended) because they never want to go through that again.

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No, I never worry about giving my daughter vaccines. One of my best friends is an RN in a pediatric ICU and her stories about kids being hospitalized for reasons that are fully preventable are reason enough for me.

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My kid has got all his vaccines. If I take them myself why wouldn’t I give them to my kid.

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I most definitely did NOT vaccinate my children (7, 5, 3) for COVID. And, I am not a hippie/flat earth-er haha I actually believe in many vaccines. My issue with vaccinating for COVID: the pediatric version of vaccines available include mRNA. The mRNA manipulates the way the cell's DNA is structured, and has had many serious side effects that regular vaccines (dead vaccine) do not have. Another thought: children in the age range of 18mo+ are the most formidable demographic to beat COVID and have no long term covid/side effects. The same logic applies to why children constantly get sick, but are less likely to end up in the hospital (flu, colds, HFM, cold sores, coup, etc). **RSV is exceptionally bad this year-- most likely beacause everyone has been isolated for so long and I do not count that with the logic I just applied (as always, please wash your hands and don't projectile sneeze)**. HOT TAKE: I feel it's more of a disservice to vaccinate children for COVID. We are robbing them of natural immunity. There isn't a thing as "herd immunity" with COVID-- it's a recurring virus (vs. polio, MMR, Chicken Pox etc). We are also pushing a drug with no long term side effect studies done on the youth of the nation, and having only had it around for about a year, we already know that clotting disorders have shown up. Remember when we thought baby powder was harmless? Natural immunity seems to be the best guard with minimal to no risk (.0003% of children ages 2-18 ended up hospitalized from COVID). If we look at just the data, turn off the TV/news, and focus on what we know of children (not adults) getting COVID vs. getting a vaccines-- seems like being unvaccinated for this one makes more long term sense.

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Yes…I agree with you! ✌🏼✌🏼✌🏼

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No, I vaccinated both of mine. I know too many people who've ignored or thought they knew better than conventional medicine and they've suffered.

One of them was my SIL and she passed away because she ignored and tried to treat her cancer symptoms on her own for months before she was actually diagnosed. I might be a little biased, but I'm all for conventional medicine. My kids have all the shots.

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Sorry to hear about your SIL. It must be very hard to wonder if she would have survived, or lived a longer, quality life, had she listened to the medical professionals to get treatment.

As I am not a physican, I fully believe that my providers have the knowledge and wisdom to recommend the right treatments. I’m so sorry that your SIL was unable to make sound medical decisions. ❤️

I’m waiting until full FDA approval. We are still in “emergency use” phase and it’s no longer an emergency imo.

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I also caught Covid, vaxxed and boosted myself, from a vaxxed and boosted friend so I don’t think unvaxxed people need to avoid public places for anyone else’s benefit but their own, if they choose to be risk averse.

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Yep! Trust your gut

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Welcome to a beautiful period in the history of our medical system where we trust our gut to dig deeper into things we don’t understand, are curious about our hesitancy, honor our own questions regarding our medical decisions and ask providers we trust, and don’t just blindly trust huge pharmaceutical oligarchies who have zero liability and a history of paying out millions for their money-hungry irresponsibilities.

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I guess I don’t understand this thinking…. 2yo is perfectly healthy now, would you wait until they weren’t to offer a vaccine? Because at that point it’s a bit moot.

We absolutely get covid and flu vaccines for our 3 and 1yo. They are in daycare and will get enough illnesses as it is. Could you imagine the stress on their bodies having RSV or some other nasty cold, then getting covid while still recovering when their lungs are already going through it? Unless I could keep my kids home and less exposed, I wouldn’t skip it. My kids did get covid before the vaccine was available to them. The baby had such a bad viral rash it blistered her entire body/back, in addition to the respiratory issues. Both kids were okay, but miserable. I’ll spare them that any chance I can.

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I really struggle to understand why anyone would risk their child getting sick when a vaccine is available to keep them healthy. It seems like a risky gamble when science provides us an opportunity to protect our kids from falling ill.

I have an almost 4 year old who is fully vaccinated with his normal vaccines, but I am not having him get the Covid vaccine until there is long term data to prove that it’s safe.

At the very beginning of the pandemic before vaccines were available, I lost my father to covid and nearly lost my mother as well, and even after that I refuse to risk my sons health for something that isn’t fully FDA approved and we don’t know what issues it may cause down the road. Personally, I am vaccinated and boosted and have had more health issues since receiving the vaccines myself.

It’s a very personal choice for you and your family and there’s no right or wrong answer. Do your research and decide what you feel is best as a parent.

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I'm beyond trying to convince anyone this vaccine is safe, that there will be long term consequences to letting our kids get infected with covid over and over again that they will start to see as they grow up...I will just point out that the RSV vaccine in development is using the same mRNA technology as the covid shots. Future vaccines will continue to use mRNA.

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My husband and I chose to not vaccinate our 2 and 6 year old because my 2 year old has already had it so she’s built a natural immunity and my 6 year old has either had it and never had symptoms or has gotten lucky the 3 times my husband has had it and never got it. Personally, I don’t feel there’s enough knowledge for any long term effects of the shots in children (and adults for that matter) to make an informed decision about it. Ultimately, it’s what you feel is best for your child as his parent.

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There's a lot to read through here, so apologies if this is repeat info. Personally, with our first, we are not planning to follow the schedule, and have already set up our family care dr to work with us in this area. Pediatricians will generally push the schedule because they get significant kickback from insurance companies for %patient compliance. Our neighbor who has 5 children was kicked out of her pediatric practice because of it. That's one reason to be skeptical of those pushing "the science", because there is a lot of money at stake.

An example of one vaccine we won't be getting our child is the hep b. It's typically transferred through sharing needles (drug use) and sexual transmission. And they are pushing this for babies? When the efficacy wanes well before that baby would ever likely be exposed to either of those things?? Make it make sense doc.

An example of one we plan to delay is tetanus. We live on a farm, and the odds of a child getting a deep puncture where the disease could thrive is certainly possible once they're up and playing around... its an old farm and we cleared a lot of buried dump sites but I'm sure we didnt find them all.. but I would bet a kid playing in the dirt would find one right away. I'd also prefer to wait until a child can TELL ME something is wrong if they're having some kind of reaction.

There are a lot of books available on the subject if you'd like referenced sources, etc. Do your research and make the best decisions for YOUR family/children. Doctors won't do it for you. Just because so and so got it and was "fine" (measured against what, I don't know) doesn't mean it's the same for all of us.

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A voice of reason! This is what doing research gets you...being able to make an informed decision!

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We vaccinated our 18 month old with the Covid vaccine. My aunt is a nurse and she has done a ton of research and she urged us to get him vaccinated. We also spoke with our pediatrician and they also recommended it. I would rather be super cautious and have him vaccinated. I was also worried about our son getting Covid and passing it on to our parents who are 65+. I know there is still a chance he can get it, but the symptoms aren’t going to be as bad.
I think everyone has the right to do what they feel is best for their family. It may be right for me, but not for you and that’s okay.

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I would never give my kids the vaccine. I have family members who are doctors and they both said don’t do it a long time ago. Don’t feel bad. For the record I took the vaccine but someone would have to kill me first to give it to my kids.

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