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I get the sense that part of the reason schools are slow to re-open is that the faculty is opposed to going back for self-serving reasons with an irrational argument to support their position. It seems like a lot of time is spent focusing on all the things that could go wrong and minimal time on how to make it work. I’m sorry summer break is over, but it’s time to get back to work like the rest of us do 365. Our kid needs an education and we need to work without worrying about it.

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Right, the 3.7M teachers across the US are all engaging in a grand conspiracy to be lazy and avoid teaching your kids.

Or you know, it could be that there’s been no clear guidance, conflicting messaging from the administration, and complex judgement calls being made at the individual district and school levels to figure out how to switch from overcrowded classrooms to some new model. All without the extra funding or logistical support necessary for such significant change in such a short period.

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Public schools have teachers unions and their members are paid by property taxes regardless of whether classes are held in person or on zoom.

Private schools are funded by tuitions and if students don’t meet in person there will be rebates and backlash and lawsuits and most schools won’t survive for long.

That’s why public kids are staying home and private kids are going back - the rest is just Sabre rattling unless you think the health and safety of a private school teacher is worth less than that of a public school one.

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I agree that private schools couldn't afford not to open in person. However many parents have withdrawn private school kids, which has allowed schools to open because they can accommodate more social distancing. I know that our former school is struggling for teachers because there were many teachers that couldn't return due to risk, but they are also struggling with finances from losing summer camp tuition and having fewer students.

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The fact that you think teachers take the summer off shows how entirely unqualified you are to be apart of this discussion.

Plz fix

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I love and support teachers including my partner & several close friends, and would like to point out that some teachers definitely do take the summer off to spend time with their children, have a vacation, go to doctor appointments, do home repairs. And that's okay! And many do work additional jobs because their pay is low.

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What

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...the 🦆?!

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Oh jeez, you’re a senior consultant and this is what you concluded? Cmon...

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I know university is different from K-12, but come on... UNC didn’t even last a week before sending everyone home, Notre Dame made it a few days before having to move online for 2 weeks, and this is just the tip of the iceberg. And that’s in a situation where schools can largely control who you come in contact with outside of class (by monitoring the dorms). Not to mention that in theory it should be easier to get college students to maintain basic cleanliness like washing hands, wearing masks, etc

In K-12, schools have no control over where irresponsible parents may take their kids outside of school hours or who they’ll be exposed to. Elementary school kids are basically Petri dishes full of germs, and good luck trying to get insecure high schoolers (we’ve all been there) to do uncool things like “wearing masks” and to avoid groups.

The concerns of teachers are more than valid, and it’s only a matter of time until more people start dying because of opening schools.

How about instead of blaming teachers, accept it was YOUR decision to have a kid, and as bad as this situation is, it’s now YOUR responsibility to take care of them? It is not the responsibility of teachers to put their lives and the lives of others at risk so that you can have a day off.

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Hahahaha says the person that can work from home...”why the peasants can’t go and teach my kids and risk getting sick while I don’t have to worry about them during day”

By the way... your entitlement is showing!

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This is the first and only post I’ve read on FB related to covid where everyone agreed.
Well done OP, your insane post was so ridiculous it actually united everyone.

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Very very good point SVP1...”All Hail OP the Uniter!!”

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How to make it work... In many places that exactly the issue. Plenty of districts aren’t requiring masks, have no plan for social distancing, and have not committed to notify parents/teachers of illness in the same classroom. Administrators and Ed Boards didn’t come up with a plan to make it work. Now, it’s not always their fault; in many places they’re hamstrung by political leaders.

If you want people to get back to work and some semblance of daily routine, then encourage your political leaders to get in front of this thing: masks, testing, contact tracing, penalties for large gatherings. That’s how we get out of this thing in 6 months rather than 18.

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Tax1 this isn’t theoretical. We could literally follow the paths of most first world nations and reap the benefits

As someone who teaches college classes PT at night, all I have to say is LOL. You have no clue. Stay in your lane.

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And this is why we’ve made no progress. This type of asinine thinking

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OP is not gonna come back to read any rebuttal or be open to changing their mind, don't bother y'all.

But OP, you are very very obviously wrong. If you had any educators in your family or as friends you'd know better.

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Self serving? Do you have any idea how hard it is to force social distancing with children? It’s not self serving. Children may -generally- not have severe symptoms but they can still spread it. Teachers overwhelmingly understand how having kids in classrooms is not safe for society.

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As a consultant, you should recognize that some times the long term outcomes are suboptimal in order to address short term needs.

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Yeah, because it's possible to get a group of 7 year olds to wear masks, not smear snot, and stay 6 feet separated

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It’s also because parents in other nations actually parent. They dictate the rules. But here parents want to be their kids friends, don’t understand what it means to tell a kid “no” and stick with it, act like kids are some fragile breakable objects, and don’t know what it means to parent.

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Please stuff yourself into a barrel and have someone roll you onto a highway

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This comment really deserves more love. Top drawer.

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...have you seen the way kids cough?

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Yawn...

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“Self serving reasons with an irrational argument”

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Wanting to not die is “self-serving” now I guess.

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Lol are you saying kids have to physically be in school to learn now? And the risk of the pathetic education we provide is worth their health and their families health and the communities health? Just so they can watch nat geo?

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S1, yes, imagine that - kids need to be around other kids to learn social norms and behaviors, as well as be educated by adults who were actually trained on this very subject.

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