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I hate my job teaching the subject I teach, I want to leave and teach a different subject. Problem, I teach a topic that is in a severe shortage, I make more than 100K, I have tenure, and I am too young to retire (4 years away from 20 yrs). What should I do? Leave this job and take a pay cut and lose my tenure and job security? Just stay for another 4 years, and then take early retirement?

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I was on the same page. I had 27 years in and over 100k. I retired at the end of last year. I guess I could have stayed, but I would have been bitter and the kind of teacher no kid wants to have. By leaving, I kept my good reputation in tact. Did I lose a couple percentages of my pension; yep, and I would do it again. I simply did not want to teach anymore. I still loved the kids, but I hated the BS from parents, the paperwork, administration, pd days, and the endless, pointless meetings. Was it hard to leave the money? Yes, but for my own self preservation I had to. I’ll tell you that I taught ELA and my students always had excellent scores on state tests. I knew they would never let me change positions.

Here’s how I viewed my situation…life is to short to be miserable. Life is not a “do over.” You get one shot. I wanted to make mine count. I loved teaching, but I was ready to move on. That didn’t mean I hated the job, it just meant that I finished that chapter of my life. I don’t view it as a failure. The reality is I had to bank some money, figure out my health insurance, and tell the district I was retiring. The last part sounds easy, but it really isn’t because it’s so final.

I love retirement. People have told me my face doesn’t look stressed anymore. I’m not working right now, but I will get a part-time job when I’m ready.

I wish you the best. You do what you have to do to be happy. Regardless of the money, it will be worth it. Try to view this not as an ending, but as a new beginning.

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Georgia…I agree with you 100%! When you’re to the point that you don’t like who you are anymore that’s reason to leave. As I said before, I don’t see that as a failure on your part or on mine. It’s just the closing of one chapter of your life. You will go on to do other things with a smile on your face and with a piece of mind that you did the right thing…not only for yourself, but for the students.

Isn’t it funny…teachers also told me that I would know when it was time to retire, and they were correct. I knew when I was done. You just know.

Congratulations on your well deserved retirement. When your former colleagues see you again they will tell you that the stress doesn’t show in your face anymore. Good luck in your future endeavors!

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Perhaps a paradigm shift in how you teach the subject you so dislike teaching? It is easy to get caught in the negative aspects of this job as we are taking criticism and attacks from all fronts almost every day. All that said at the end of each day I try to find at least 3 good things that happened that day. I write them down. I hold them close and actively try to release as much of the negative energy as I can. Perhaps sharing your subject would allow others who are teaching that subject with passion still to share some ideas? Teachers are a creative, clever, collaborative and resiliant bunch. Only you can make the right financial decision for yourself. That said, we the teaching community COULD perhaps help you remember or find some spark of passion or interest again. If you are interested in trying to finish those 4 years, ask for support and ideas for teaching your subject. If you are interested in early retirement or a career change ask a financial planner or job coach. We are also fighting in NM for $40,000 lvl 1, $50,000 lvl 2 and $60,000 lvl 3. Your $100,000 sounds like 4 years of awesome pay to me. Then again I am not in your shoes. Only you can walk in your shoes and decide when it is time to go barefoot, get orthodics or swap shoes! Blessings for the tough days and the tough decisions. Remember that there are still teachers out there with at least a little passion for their subjects. Maybe sharing the subject and grade level could get some meaningful tips, tricks, lesson ideas and a vicarious spark from their passion.

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I'm sorry, you lost me at over 100k. Our pay scale doesn't even go to 100k.
Still sorry for you though and I hope you can find some way to make it through!

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Well you have to ask yourself, "How much is my happiness worth"? If it is 100K a year, then stay, if not then leave.

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Teachers should be allowed to transfer to another district without losing their pay and seniority. This is the problem when education is locally controlled.

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Or their tenure.

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Count your blessings instead of crosses. Offer up your sacrifices for all those who are not in your position and would gladly trade places with you. The grass isn't always greener. Find something about what you are doing that brings you joy and hold onto it for all those times you want to quit. The lives you are changing are innumerable and worth the sacrifice.

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Sounds like you have never had an actual real job. If you hate teaching that bad, I’m guessing you have not worked a job that is actually hard. I’d recommend you go try out an actual “job” over the summer. Do it for a month and it will make you appreciate how great we actually have it. Just remember, we only work 180 or so days a year.

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I’ve had 20 jobs in my life and started working at 12. I’ve had part time jobs, as many as three while I was teaching. Teaching is by far the hardest.

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Yes, count your blessings while thinking about a well deserved change. It’s not up to you or any one of us to carry this weight. We don’t owe it to anyone!
You are young and have SO much in front of you. You are reassessing your current situation which is always a good thing to do- it’s healthy that you are being honest with yourself. Yes, this has been a crappy 2 years, but let’s face it- it’s not getting better any time soon (especially education).
One could argue that there’s never been a better time to explore what options are out there for you (in the field of education and outside of this field). There are SO many work opportunities and openings right now. The world is open to you.
Do you have an idea what you’d want to do instead of teach? You can always come back to teaching ( if you do it right ).
Also…Teaching is NOT the ‘be all end all’ and…while the grass isn’t ‘always’ greener elsewhere, many times it is.
I constantly remind myself that fear of change can be crippling and immobilizing. Be an active participant in your life. Thanks for sharing and keep us posted.

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I get it! Good luck!

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I gritted my teeth and made it to our rule of 80. I qualified in 12/1/2021. I am retiring at the end of our semester on 1/14/2022. Once you can see the end, you admit to yourself how bad it really is. I am only 56 so I am starting a second career on 1/17/2022. It was a bold unpopular move but it will save my sanity. I also had a one way 70 mile commute.

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Congratulations! What is the new career?

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My opinion would be to finish out the 4 years, then take early retirement.

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Thank you for that advice, I just hope I can hold out that long without burning out!

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Y’all make way more up there than we do

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A house for 500k?! That would be amazing! Can't get that unless you're in a terrible neighborhood down here in LA county.
Teaching is a trap! I'm year in 20 and 45 years old, losing my mind with this job. Can't retire until 55 minimum or 50 if you have 30 years service (how is that even possible?) We lose it all!
This is an absolutely miserable job and no one tells incoming teachers about this trap. It's ridiculous.

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Can we swap?

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Well you should try to get to your retirement years first because what ever you make at that time will impact your retirement check. Saying that you also have to think what will make you happy. However as teachers we really don't get paid as much as lawyers or doctors. Check your retirement plan before you make a change. Consider a job where you can advise others to do what you do, teach the teachers.

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Well, I read through so many great suggestions, and like I posted earlier, you all are so right! I stopped looking 👀 for negative things, and I am so much happier now… Through this post, I realized that there are a lot of things positive about my job… Plus, I found an after school job that pay well, and I can teach some extra to students who are eager to learn… I want to expand into teaching electronics and possibly, robotics in my urban school district… Thanks Fishbowl for showing me the “Yellow Brick Road”😁

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Wow I can not imagine making 100 000. Where do you teach? I probably could tough it out for that money

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This level of pay is in california and with the cost of living it seems like a lot but it’s really expensive in CA. I haven’t paid under $6.45 for gas in a long time. $89.00 to fillip my college daughters VW Jetta yesterday when visiting

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I am retiring early in 43 days or so. I am taking a cut in retirement pay, but plan on working part-time at home to keep me busy and make up the difference. I am so ready.

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CONGRATULATIONS!!! 🎉🎊🥳🙌

Enjoy the next chapter and new adventures in your life!

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What is more important to you, security or job satisfaction?

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Whoaaaaaa! Back off CMS4- you need to be checked.
A ‘real’ job? Is that what you said? There are many many professions as hard (or much harder) than teaching. Get off that high horse of yours! I’m not sure you realize just how patronizing and demeaning you sound.
Maybe you’re having a real sour day?

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This is hard. I’m going through the same thing as you. I’m in 29 years. And I don’t think I can make it until I retire. I’m thinking of starting a new career

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You make more than 100k in NJ? I’m in KY and I do as well, but I’m only one year away from retirement. I’m curious how you make so much teaching for only 16 years. Assuming you teach math? My suggestion is incorporate reading/language arts into your curriculum.

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Many states do not have collective bargaining rights. Unions have pros and cons but get teachers the pay they deserve.

This is the best time to make a move and regain job security.
Figure out what you could afford to live on and start applying. See what you get offered. You don't have to take it if it isn't a viable option.
In the meantime try to make a move in your district.

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Can you move to s different subject in your same building? We don't make anywhere near 100k (and probably don't have the high cost of living either!), but pay doesn't matter when you hate your job. I guess the question would be, if you are unable to move to a different subject at your school, how badly do you hate your current subject and job? Can you afford lower pay or is there an.afterschool program that could make up the difference? Is it affecting your health, performance, etc.? Can you handle it for another 4 years? Can you handle it for another 1 year and then maybe a switch would be available? If it is just too much, then you probably have your answer. I wish you the best in whatever decision you make. It's a tough one.

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