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I have a gov law job with an offer to go to a great firm as a mid-level associate. Worried that if COVID continues, I’ll get laid off (much less likely at my gov job). Should I wait or go?

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The economy is in for some shit for the foreseeable future. I'd stick with the stable job.

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If they bring you in now, they should know the risks. It’s another thing if they brought you in January 2020.

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The true question is what's the delta in salaries and how much could you get ahead in the new job over the next 6 months or so even if you were eventually laid off. Going from a $70k/yr government gig to a $300k firm job may be more than worth it even if you're laid off 9 months from now.

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How did they handle things in 2008?

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Dont go. I worked on a hall of laterals in 2008 that got canned 1 by 1 as partners circled the wagons with trusted associates who had worked there longer. Same laterals were _begged_ to join months before.

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Might you offer them the opportunity to defer until they are back to the office? Assuming they are now WFH.

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they’re not going to hire you as a midlevel now and then lay you right off. if they hire you they have a good sense they have the work to keep you on. and they’ll be axing the expensive senior associates first

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Put it in your contract to be certain!

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I’ve seen peers make similar transitions. They negotiated guaranteed 1-2 year contracts for that purpose.

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I’m sure the firm has a business plan when they endeavored to hire a new attorney.

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