I have an interview outside my company and will only take a second interview/the job if the pay is right. How hard is appropriate to push to get a firm salary range in a first round interview? I don’t want to waste anyones time or resources if I’d turn down the job for pay at the end

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I recently went through this during my first round. Here’s what I did.

(1)I gave an original number 30% higher than what I want (my target is 70% higher than my comp now). I also said the corporate word salad of “I don’t want to waste time if we aren’t aligned, I provide value like this, yada yada yada.”

(2) HR didn’t respond with an email, only a request to call about the ranges, which I absolutely recorded because I live in a one-party consent state. They called, gave the whole pitch of “but…other benefits…” I said that’s not what I’m looking for and I want ranges. Then they caved and gave me the spread for the level above and below. Did some quick math and came back with a relative midpoint of the job I’m applying for. Turns out it is right about what I am targeting.

(3) accept that midpoint and move through the interviews. I’m currently still interviewing, but if given an offer, I’ll counter the midpoint +10k because why not?

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Just be honest from the start. They’ll respect the candor provided you’re polite. Also don’t overly exaggerate what you want. They will see through it. And definitely do not record any conversations without permission from the other party! It is illegal in many states to record convos without permission.

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The majority of states (38/50) are one party consent states. So long as you do your due diligence, record away for your own protection

Be upfront with them about what your salary requirements are. Be confident in what you’re asking for because if you lack that they will interpret it as you’re not worth it and you’re just seeking more money. Personally I like to go through the whole interview and have that be my last question, because I like to see if they’re interested and impressed with what they see in me. That way I can feel good about the interview before I talk salary

Nothing inappropriate about being firm that you need that information to ensure it's a fit for both you and them! Transparency in the interview process is key. If they won't tell you or it feels like they're playing games, restate your expectations and let them know you are happy to continue the process if what you've told them is in line with what they can offer, otherwise, you'll have to withdraw your candidacy.

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