I just graduated ad school (art direction) and need some advice... Any thoughts on Goodby vs Venables (assume pay is the same, I don’t want this to be about the $)? I love both agencies and am very torn between the 2. All thoughts are welcome! Happy to DM as well.

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I'd go with goodby. There's a great pair of black CDs there to learn from/work with, the clients are more interesting (imo), and the shop--despite ups and downs--is generally pretty solid.

A good place with Google people to start your career.

Work life balance is terrible for both shops tho

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I second this. I met the 2 Black CDs in New York and they were awesome.

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