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I just landed my dream job at a big tech company but I think I might have benefited from affirmative action. The recruiter mentioned how I would add diversity to the leadership team of the product...

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If you achieve the goals of affirmative action - then you deserve that spot. The reason companies have chosen to favor you is so - 1. People look up to you and are like I can be like him (role model) 2. When decisions are being made - you present the nuance of your ethnic background that may be missed otherwise 3. By having a higher a quality of life, your offspring will benefit leading to a ripple effect benefit that many privileged people experience today 4. I'm hiring decisions you are able to spot situations of bias 5. Just by being employed you create pipeline of folks from your background - as you will be a referral source. This is a hidden benefit that gets missed out. There are a lot of studies that show affirmative action is not as successful - desegregation (mixed communities in the same neighborhood) is a much stronger source of breaking racial inequities. But until we have that very difficult change, this one would be better. Thanks

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The only difference between this and any other job is the fact that they were indiscrete enough to have said something while others didn’t. Every employer today is considering diversity in their hiring decisions. You will never find an organisation that interviews you through an opaque screen with a sanitized version of your resume and then selects you based on merit alone. For the good reasons given by others above, do not raise this issue with your new employer; just focus on amply demonstrating the merit for which you were hired.

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Oh wow... first time I hear someone complain about being able to take advantage of affirmative action. In life you have to take advantage of anything that is presented to you, so enjoy and please do not complain! We are constantly reminded in this country that minorities have no opportunities and are treated badly, which is absolutely false. Minorities have advantages that others have not, and you are a prime example of it. So you should cherish that.

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IBM continues to amaze with bottomless ignorance. Why assume my gender?

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What’s the issue? Do you not see yourself in the same light (as adding diversity)? Not sure about this firm but in ours, you’re selected for merit first and any other factors second. If you didn’t interview as well or didn’t impress, you’d not have been hired. Thinking that you’re any less than because this comment was made speaks to insecurity & self-doubt which is absolutely normal (the baggage of being a minority). Let me tell you this: Congratulations. You earned the spot. Now go dazzle.

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OP...no one is hired, given a promotion, or raise based on one factor. It’s always a combination of factors. And if you were hired into a leadership position you had to impress numerous people, have the right mix of experience and education and probably be seen as someone they felt they could work with. Also you don’t know what ethnicity all the other candidates were. I would bet it’s a mix of men, women, white, POC and maybe even sexuality. And out of all the candidates they chose you. Be proud of getting the position and celebrate your success.

OP, a white male would never question if he got the job because of his skin colour and gender. For centuries women and minorities were excluded from these opportunities that are just now starting to open their doors. Do not for a second doubt your own abilities and think it’s a ‘handout’. You got the job fair and square, diversity is just a bonus.

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... Division that I am in while reading the offer to me. I don’t like hand outs and I think it’s degrading to me if I landed the job because of my race. Though I mean in this world anything that can get me ahead would be great. I am very conflicted - I don’t want to cause swirls by voicing my concerns but also want to make sure they hired me because of my merits, not because they need to boost their diversity numbers. Any thoughts on this?

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If you’re truly a person of color (sorry but this post reads like the prompt to a bad faith argument by a MAGA type) then I’m sure you’ve been affected by a million micro (or not so micro) aggressions throughout your career. Of course you’re hired on merit but the adage of having to work twice as hard to get half as far is true (in my experience). So if you feel that your race helped you land the job don’t sweat it. You’re more than qualified. It’s not a handout.

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For centuries, wealthy white men were successful, and not for a second did they wonder if they got a leg up for their skin color, gender or last name.

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Huh? I think if anyone was excited to join a new team or group and they find out their skin color is why they were picked they'd feel upset. That's human. Just like being not chosen because of your skin color. Either this thinking is good or bad. But don't say it's OK just because you happen to benefit this time.

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Might be just me but I feel like people question my credentials throughout my career journey - whether it’s college or my time at McK. I always think that people think I’m less qualified or got in through affirmative action. I have a good background experience now and I do not want to experience this further.

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You’re probably right though. You’re for sure a smart kid, as most people are in this job. but I’ve been at recruiting decision round tables where we have chosen minorities and women over better performing white males to fill the quota 🤷‍♂️. I suppose careful what you ask for. In the meantime, take advantage of it... maybe in your position you may help other kids in the future...

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Congrats! Don’t worry about that. Be confident in your ability. You are qualified and have the experience.

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You can add diversity in many ways other than being a minority. This can be by something you said during the interview process or experience/background. Don’t internalize this more than you should. They obviously saw something in you. I don’t think anyone in this job market is in a position to give participation stickers. If you feel this was solely due to AA, pass them my resume.

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Take it and prove you are excellent at it! And make sure other minorities get equal opportunities.

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First off, congrats! Secondly- this is a common misconception with affirmative action. It’s never a “we need x amount of black/brown/etc. people here in order to meet our quota”. It just means they add race into the equation when examining your qualifications. Speaking as a former recruiter, you would not get a position if you were not qualified and a great candidate. Did your race help you? Maybe, but it no way shape or form would be the only reason you would be selected.

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assuming you are a POC brought on to a largely non-POC team, i don’t really think this is something you’re consistently going to be able to have your cake and eat it too - that is, being the target of diversity initiatives without those initiatives ever being mentioned around you. if that even would be having your cake and eating it. it’s unfortunate that the recruiter said that. perhaps they are an idiot. perhaps it gave you insight into what more than just one person at the company thinks there - that they need to look at a more diverse pool of candidates just to go through the motions. although it seems like they are making good on those motions. alternatively, giving them the benefit of the doubt, maybe they’re just not used to factoring diversity into their hiring process, and that comment showed that inexperience. or maybe they are hoping that you can bring your experience to the table and help further improve their efforts toward increasing diversity. i’m a white guy, so my response may not be the most sensitive to your particular situation, but i wouldn’t read too much into it at this point. i’m not saying to forget it, but don’t assume the worst. keep in mind the big picture. you said you just landed your dream job. at a time when other people, including myself, would be happy to just have a job. personally, i am not so proud that i would let one paternalistic comment from a recruiter who i will probably never see again ruin that for me. and congrats, btw. i am sure you got the job because you convinced them that you were the best candidate.

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Here’s a thought: very likely, President Obama and Michelle Obama likely benefited from some affirmative action admission policies at Harvard. It doesn’t matter, because look how much good they have done for the world. So, even if you were a “diversity hire”, take the opportunity, and use it to hire other minorities, and generally better yourself and your organization.

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Really.. is this a fact....🤦🏽‍♀️

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Op you got it wrong. Diversity is not about adding “color” to the team. It’s about adding diverse POVs as a result of your unique background and heritage. Don’t be too hard on yourself. Be a leader and proud to represent your URM. Good luck!

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Wow! This media thing has really did a number on folks. Inclusivity, is recognition of the truth that diverse teams are good for business. Maybe you need to ask yourself why did you apply to the role, what are you bringing to the table, if I’m multi lingual and have culture identification that brings business value - game on! Use what your momma gave you!!!! Your a 🦄 God bless

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You are in the diversity quota. Not sure you have the right skillset, but take the job and that's it. 🤷‍♂️

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@M1 who's man or woman is this? You are a manager with this mindset? Terrible.

Serious question: if you found out you got the offer because of your minority status and otherwise would not have been considered, would you have declined/would you decline?

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Also I help some clients with recruiting strategy and some roles are geared towards people of colour to increase diversity in the company. The sourcing/selection is where diversity starts not at the interview level.

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Thats a weird comment to say to some one. Maybe they meant diversity in terms of background and skills. Diversity in regards to your race or gender? I wouldn't like to be told that

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