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For those of you who assert non-alignment with a political party, you do realize that voting Republican still makes you complicit with a political project that only aims to deny our existence and take away any civil and human rights we may have won, right? And yes, we’ve had to “win” them because, well, see above project to deny our existence and take away our civil and human rights.
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I usually put the 🏳️⚧️ because we are so few. Sometimes my identity informs my response and I feel it’s relevant for folks to know which letter of our alphabet is posting. 😄
I used to be Republican, had caucused for Huckabee and eventually for Kasich up till 2016 and Trump's takeover of the party.
What turned me more towards being a "Liberal" was my time living abroad, as well as having friends in cities who came from socially and financially marginalized communities. Some things also were thinking about the statistics and incentives around gun reform/suicides and other policies. I would say besides being gay that Pete Buttigieg probably summed up a good degree of my political hopes for 2020, but it's not a given that if one is gay and ok with it that they'll also be open to changing their minds about other things...
Similar. +++ for Kasich. One of the few I would vote for.
Believe people when they show you who they are.
Any LGBTQIA+ person voting for conservatives straight up do not care about the community and are extremely selfish. No exceptions.
Not interested in your excuses, if you support bullies you are a bully.
A spokesperson for the Gay Cops of NYC once said: "there is no difference between gay cops and straight cops" a wise person pointed out, that's exactly the problem.
Pro
Doesn’t just impact me. Anyone who lives in a Democrat controlled state or municipality knows the pain of living under fiscal mismanagement and the taxes that accompany it. You can even go online and look up the credit ratings of the states and their long term fiscal outlooks. It’s no surprise that Democrat states are worse run than Republican states.
Moderate. Used to be more liberal but lately have been extremely turned off by the way the country is going. In particular the crime and the refusal to do anything about it for fear of being labeled racist. So the rest of us have to deal with rampant homelessness, shootings, robberies and burglaries in plain sight, dangerous off road vehicles doing wheelies dodging in and out of traffic. I’m happy that this week voters have finally said enough in the most liberal city of the country. I hope this shows a return to law and order.
I relate more with real republican citizens but their party is absolutely insane. There is no place for me in politics. I feel forced to vote with the party I mostly disagree with.
I used to be a dem, millennial, voted for Obama, Hilary, etc. But was totally turned off by the way the democrat media establishment straight up lied about some of the good things Trump did while also pushing false narratives around race in this country to foment resentment. I can’t deal with the hypocrisy anymore, it’s shameless, so I’m independent now.
Pro
@OP—Republicans aren’t doing anything for or against gays in FL and TX. And, though I am gay and believe we should have the right to marry just like straight people, don’t buy into this “oh my god the world is falling apart” because Roe v. Wade may be overturned argument. Even though I’m adamantly pro-choice, Roe should go on intellectual reasons alone—it was horribly decided. But the left’s slippery slope argument just isn’t persuasive. And even if it were, these are mostly matters best left to the states anyway.
I dated a black gay Trump supporter. I never understood him.
Pro
@EY—Don’t assume that all gay people—especially those of us who are lawyers—think Obergefell was correctly decided as a matter of constitutional law. I agree with the result, yes, but the reasoning is suspect. Same with Roe v. Wade. It just ain’t there.
I used to vote according to issues that were important to me, and also the quality of the candidate whether republican or dem. Trump era has changed all that for me. Vote straight dem now and don’t even care who the candidate is.
It is not the absence of thinking, but it is critical thinking that has caused my disposition. How any objective, intelligent voter could cast a vote for any GOP candidate today is really fascinating. I don’t need to repeat the last 6 years of history to explain why. I do not want any of those people in positions of power if I can prevent it. For example, I knowingly voted for poor quality judicial candidates last year solely because they were not endorsed by the GOP. A couple of whom had never practiced in a courtroom. But they were not GOP. I knew that they did not buy in to the stolen votes BS, and if challenged at the local or state level in court, they would more likely ensure fair elections than a biased GOP judge who needs to throw red meat out to the MAGA crazies. We have one single absentee vote dropbox in a county with 1.5 million people— thanks to the GOP. Very limited in person early voting hours, in a single location, far outside the major city I live in. Crap like this the GOP is doing to prevent marginalized people from voting. People with 2 or 3 jobs, who can’t just take off in the middle of the day for things like voting, like many professionals can. And on and on. If the GOP ever gets their act together, I may reconsider. There are some prominent GOP guys I respect, but they are the “RINOS” and “never Trumpers,” so they don’t stand a chance against the current brainwashed,
groupthink GOP voting majority.
Pro
Conservative, but not Republican. While there are exceptions, the majority of the current GOP crop are traitors and insurrectionists that will overturn the majority's will, as J6 proved, misogynists, racists, and xenophobists that will mislead the electorate to retain power. The fact that a pussy-grabber and future domestic terrorist (while a sitting president) held the highest office in the land proves how depraved the party is and is evidence of its moral bankruptcy. The Democrats, on the other hand, can’t figure out how to govern and get support even from the people that put them in power. Go figure! If the GOP gets back to its conservative principles and speaks the truth at least 25% of the time, I will go back into the fold.
D1 – In that case, let the citizen decide for themselves altogether? No need to have prescription at the state level either.
Pro
I vote for Republicans. You have two horrible options. One which has atrocious social views but, if you look at the state level, generally governs with less social programs and lower taxes. You have the other party which has great views on social issues, but taxes the crap out of the states they govern in and wastes the money on lavish, overly generous pensions and benefits for government/public employees that private sector workers will never get. I know a public employee in Cali that recently retired after 37 years of work and now receives a 150k/year pension forever. How is that fair to a private sector secretary who works 45 years and receives no pension? It’s a straight up corruption quid pro quo: they get the unions to fund their campaigns and then in return take money out of taxpayers’ pockets and hand it to them. You can see the results in NYC. Some of the highest taxes in the country and yet the subway, and much of the infrastructure, is decrepit and falling apart. The NYT did an investigative expose on how the subway money gets siphoned off and sent to favorited consultants, connected unions, cronies and corruption. Government is always, at the end of the day, wasteful and inefficient. If you look at the state level at states Dems control and states Republicans control, Republicans are clearly the fiscally responsible choice. I’m not going to vote for a party whose pitch is mafia-esque: "we’ll protect you from the big bad dude around the corner, but you’ll have to pay up your protection money." No thanks.
Pro
It’s not a dollar and cents issue. It’s the blatant and clear corruption and theft and misuse of the money we all work hard to earn. It’s the fact that liberal fiscal policies make places worse places to live. Democrat run states do worse on housing affordability and COL. California is a great example. Democrats institute a blanket statewide rent control policy, which in turn leads landlords to seek higher up front rents because they know they can’t adjust them for market conditions after the lease begins. They institute a statewide eviction ban so you can keep your apartment without paying rent, which is not only devastating to small landlords, but also reduces turnover in the housing market and therefore drive up overall rent costs. They institute the highest gas taxes in the nation in order to discourage consumption, which hurts working class Californians who can’t work from a comfy home office. They institute a high wage floor, which not only drives up the cost of goods/sevices, but also makes it harder for small businesses to compete agsinst large corporations that can afford those wages. Generally, Democratic policies reduce standard of living and make places worse to live.
In all honesty, I don’t know what I am anymore. I’ve always identified as a democrat, but I more and more feel that there’s not a place for people like me in the mainstream democratic party anymore.
Pro
I’m a libertarian (classical liberal in the Lockean sense) who “caucuses” with Republicans. I used to caucus with Democrats, but the party has gone off the rails in my view as too progressive/left wing/socialist. I don’t throw away my vote by voting libertarian, so I vote Republican. I don’t agree with Republicans all the time (I’m adamantly pro-choice, for example) but given the alternative on the other side, it’s the only practical choice for me. I’m also a registered Republican so I can support more libertarian (as opposed to conservative) candidates in the primaries.
Pro
Lol always the 2nd grader level of thinking. If you don’t support childless people being taxed to provide cash handouts to those who choose to have children (dems’ child tax credit), or a universal eviction ban so that people get to stay in their apartments without paying rent, thereby driving up rental prices by reducing inventory, you must just hate immigrants.
I'm a libertarian but vote Republican. I used to say socially liberal but I'm not sure what that means anymore bc the left has been shoving crap down our throats and brainwashing kids etc etc. Also a lot of their ideas common sense wise stupid and they need to open an Econ101 book
Lots of trolls in the LGBT forum trying to cause discord amongst us.
Not conservative, but do identify as libertarian leaning
Visual Storyteller
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I’d be curious how many people from the lgbtq community voted for Trump. Just out of curiosity.
It’s the only time I remember voting, ever, the 2016 election. I stood there for 15 minutes undecided. I ended up voting for Clinton as the lesser of two evils. Then walked out second guessing my choice. Don’t regret now, but I didn’t want either.
Neither of the major political parties fit my views. I’m fiscally conservative, socially liberal, so the closest thing to my views from a political group is either independent or libertarian.
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Frustrated moderate Republican. Fiscally conservative, socially liberal. Bi (not practicing since I’m married).
Pro
the problem in nyc is not the siphoning off of money to political cronies (obviously an issue like every big city) it’s actually the fact that most of the budget goes to turning the nypd into a militarized force. trained by members of the IDF and armed by major domestic defense contractors. and nobody in power actually worries about defending the people. that doesn’t sound like a partisan problem to me.
Pro
and absent ongoing expansionist war (which we’ve clearly been failing at too) ain’t that form of pragmatism been the crux of every empire’s fall throughout history.
I’m independent. I favor no sides in a lawless and unjust regime like this.
Pro
my favorite thing about a comment like this, is that absent further elaboration, you could be anything from a far right white supremacist christian evangelist to a far left antitheist anarcho-communist and it would fit just the same.
Honestly the amount of people who are right wing here and not ashamed to admit it,or even proud of it… is a bit concerning.
The horror that not everyone thinks the exact same as you!
I actually don’t follow politics (or vote).
Dems tends to gaslight black ppl, and republicans belittle and ignore.
Pro
And how do Republicans belittle and ignore? Also just curious.