I know this is controversial, but would you get a vaccine if you didn’t have kids yet? I feel like there isn’t enough information on if/how this could potentially affect fertility. I personally contemplate waiting a little longer (at least until it’s FDA approved), but at the same time thinking maybe I’m over reacting?

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My bias: I do a lot of work in vaccine confidence and combating misinformation online. So, if you need some vaccine confidence OP or anyone else please feel free to DM me! OP, your best bet is to talk to your doctor or a doctor you trust. But here’s the thing I want to say: We all think we’re not vulnerable to misinformation but this fertility thing is the _perfect piece of misinformation_. It’s vague enough (“affect fertility” rather than something more specific like “turn you blue”) to be difficult to exhaustively and succinctly disprove. It’s something close to people’s hearts and essential humanity (reproducing). Depending on your existing political beliefs, it may seem to expose a deep hypocrisy in progressive rhetoric by taking one of our core values (everyone is sovereign over their own body) and pitting it against our urgency in encouraging vaccination (now you’re being told you’re 100% in charge of your own body except when you’re offered a vaccine, then you must not hesitate.) It finds a universal fear and exploits it with ambiguity, planting a perfect little seed of doubt coupled with fear that makes people want to seek information from their peers....thereby spreading the rumor further. If it wasn’t intentionally created, it probably would have been eventually. Lots of great resources shared here and OP, ultimately you truly do have a choice. I imagine you can’t help but feel manipulated either way. (My post probably can’t help.) The vaccine is safe. 100% effective against hospitalization and death. There is no evidence that any vaccine, including COVID vaccines, have any impact on your ability to become pregnant. These rumors are meant to scare you and they benefit only the virus.

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I got both shots. I intend to have children in the future. I’d do it again and confidently. Your menstrual cycle is linked to your immune system. This side effect makes sense. When I’ve been under severe stress or sickness, my period changed. When I went on birth control and off of it, my period changed. I imagine for most women, this is the case. Has anyone heard of long-term changes to menstrual cycles due to the vaccine? I have not yet. As for me, I had my first shot and my period arrived on schedule three days later. No changes. And I had my second shot last week, and am expecting my period this week. Physically, my typical signs are there. For what it’s worth, the only side effect I had from both doses of the vaccine was a sore arm. If the vaccine contained hormones, I would be concerned. I shared those same concerns about birth control. But in both cases I spoke with my doctors (primary care and ob-gyn) and they advocated for the vaccine (and birth control at the time). If I can’t trust the people with medical degrees, who can I trust? It’s okay to be concerned and have questions, but I strongly recommend anyone with hesitations speak with a trusted medical professional before making a decision.

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Heyo. I merely said talk to your trusted medical professional if you have questions or hesitations. I recommend this for surgeries, medications, ailments, etc. or anything related to your health. The vaccine is no different. My doctor doesn’t get a raise or a bonus for me getting vaccinated. It’s not even her job to convince me. As a doctor, she’s a scientist first, and her job is to present me with the facts so that I may make my own decisions. I will trust what she says because she’s my doctor. As for the CBS article, this summarily includes those adjacent to doctors (techs, admins, et al) , who are not making medical decisions but work in the space. Others have rightfully pointed out its inaccuracy and statistical insignificance. As we say on the research end of things, there is a stat out there to prove anything you like; without context, significance or correlation, accuracy is negotiable. Additionally, I imagine that with FDA approval, the COVID-19 vaccine will become compulsory for those in healthcare, just as the flu shot is now. All of that aside, and most importantly, my point and my hope is you and others nurture strong enough relationships with your doctors to have frank conversations about things that may affect and impact your health. It’s one of the most important relationships in your life.

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Have you considered the fact that getting Covid might affect your fertility? And if the disease is not eradicated before you get pregnant, you’d want to consider that Covid is way more dangerous for pregnant women than for others of the same age.

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OP - it is very much your personal decision. There are reasons why the government and healthcare organizations do not mandate Covid vaccination. As usual, it is a good idea to weigh the risks vs benefits. You are correct that we have little evidence of the impact of the vaccine to fertility. We can’t compare the risk of getting the vaccine to the risk of getting Covid. Many of us are able to voluntarily and significantly reduce our risk of getting (and sharing) Covid. Personally, I would rather keep a low-risk lifestyle while more time passes and more data becomes available about the vaccines. Yes, no eating at restaurants or flying on airplanes for me for a while, but it is my choice.

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Have you always asked yourself this question about vaccines and medicine or are you allowing yourself to be influenced by non-expert sources after an exhausting year?

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GD 1 - You are onto something here. I do not get vaccines or take meditations unless they are truly necessary. I find alternatives to antibiotics and opt out of pain meds during childbirth. Another important question is - who are the experts and why do we view them as trustworthy experts? Our doctors are certified by boards that embrace a particular philosophy of medicine. Health care (read: preservation of health) is not as high of a priority as treatment of illness for the allopathic (MD) philosophy. This is worthwhile for someone with a severe illness. Thankfully, it is not the only philosophy for health care. Lifestyle prescription is not typical in our healthcare. For instance, 45 minutes of daily cardio is effective for migraine prevention no less than innovative medical injections. Yet, our MDs encourage us to opt in for meds because of convenience. My preference is to focus on health preservation rather than convenience. Medications not only have “side effects”, but they often change the homeostatic processes by which our bodies maintain health. Read a pharmacology textbook, and you will see. These effects are hard to track within the evidence-based medicine approach. If we don’t see evidence, we say “no evidence “. Well-intending MDs are trained within a limited philosophy, taught how to think inside a box, and as a result, are somewhat brainwashed in the process. They are a product of their environment. They are not trained to preserve health. They are trained to vend medications. I have not paid attention to the media or conspiracy theories. I worked hard to develop critical thinking skills to avoid becoming mislead by the “expert” or the non-expert masses. Will I get the COVID vaccine? Possibly, although I am certainly not in a rush.

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I already got it. No kids yet. Will be ttc next year. Absolutely no evidence that it affects fertility.

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Not controversial at all, this should be a personal choice and people shaming others into a vaccine is terrifying.

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Yes. No question I would get it. This vaccine is built on years of mRNA research. It will keep you and your community so much safer from a deadly disease. FYI I’m newly pregnant and just got my second dose.

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I think we don't know for sure the effect of this vaccine, but we do know for sure the effect of covid = lots and lots of people died, is dying, will die. If we don't get vaccinated this will produce more variants of the virus and will be even worse. To me, it's a question of choosing between these two options. This is the reality and we can't pretend this situation is not happening. No action is actually an action. Sorry if this came across as a bit scary but unfortunately this is what we are living and it is a scary situation. I am counting the days for my second dose.

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There is zero evidence it affects fertility. Vaccines don’t work that way. I assume you meant, can it harm an unborn child if you’re already pregnant? Also zero evidence.

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I'm more worried about the long term affects of using birth control pills for over a decade than I am a vaccine that has decades of research behind it. mRna vaccines aren't new, just the application to this specific virus.

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I don’t think you’re overreacting at all and I’ve had the same concerns. No, there aren’t any signs that it affects fertility, but we simply don’t know at this point. It’s strange to me that there isn’t more conversation around the potential risks and impact on fertility and/or birth defects. Thalidomide babies anyone?!

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SAD1, thalidomide was never approved in the U.S., although babies were harmed by some trials that were done. It’s not a good comparison because it wasn’t being used to treat a deadly disease or stop a pandemic. Pregnant woman have died from Covid, and the disease is a much greater risk to them than the vaccine. If you’re not pregnant yet, it makes a lot more sense to get the vaccine so you don’t have to choose between getting the vaccine while pregnant or getting Covid while pregnant. You have a much higher risk of harm to the mother or baby if you get Covid while pregnant.

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I’m currently 7 months pregnant and I decided to wait until after I give birth to get vaccinated. It was a really hard decision but it was one I felt most comfortable with given limited data (so far) of effects on pregnant women. That being said though, I plan on getting vaccinated ASAP after my baby is born. While continuing to social distance is the right choice for me for a few more months, I’m very much looking forward to getting vaccinated.

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Yep the antibodies information is so important! I am pregnant and have had both doses, and I’m so grateful to science that me and my baby are protected and we’ll be contributing to herd immunity. I also had a miscarriage and I know the risk of Covid to myself and my baby FAR outweighs the risk of the vaccine.

I am in the middle of fertility treatments and our doc is encouraging patients to get it.

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I work in healthcare comms and vaccines in particular. Where did these rumors start? There’s no reason to think the vaccines have anything to do with fertility. I’m 26, no kids and got the J&J vaccine.

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My brother-in-law is a scientist currently researching COVID-19 and he encouraged my pregnant sister to get that vax. So I think that says a lot.

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Six months pregnant and fully vaccinated. My doctor recommended it and I trust her implicitly. MRNA vaccines are incredible. And I’ve yet to get a recommendation for a vaccine from a doctor that can cause birth defects. I was hesitant to get vaccinated because of the speed with which this vaccine was created but then I learned about how many other factors contribute to delays in vaccine development. Like funding, public interest, bureaucratic red tape, etc. The covid vaccines are actually an incredible testament to the power of government to prioritize public health when it makes its mind up to do so. Also worth noting that the testing period for these vaccines wasn’t accelerated.

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Can’t have kids if I’m dead, I guess. At least that’s my reasoning for getting the vaccine.

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What about thinking about humanity as a collective instead as the individual? Why do you matter more than the whole population?

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W&K, what do you consider falls under “medically can’t” exactly. For example, I have an auto immune disease that is relatively under control with medication. As of now, there is no available data on how exactly vaccine mixes with immune suppressants medications and CDC website states, and I quote, “people with auto immunity can get a vaccine, however they should be aware no data is available on the safety of the vaccine for people with auto immune conditions”. So right now it’s the matter of taking a risk and finding out, or waiting for more data. Like you do realize that there is a huge amount of people in between “healthy” and “medically can’t get a vaccine”. Do you suggest all these people need to not ask questions about it, get a shot immediately or be excluded from participating in society? They are a part of a the whole population you keep talking about. It seems like you care more about your own peace of mind and it has nothing to do with the so called concern for the world.

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Personal experience: got first shot, got pregnant, got second shot, now 12 weeks with a healthy baby and mom.

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