I never left the city since I’m technically from here although my home away from home is in Europe since I was born there. I asked my manager if I can work from Europe. I told him I’d commit to EST hours but he was still hesitant. I don’t think it’s fair that others (in the company and people in general) get to move back to their homes or work remotely from anywhere inside the states but I can’t? Do you think that’s fair? Would love your POV! To be clear this would be temporary 2-3 months

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I am also from Europe (France) and I got to spend 2 months this winter there with my family after 2+ years of separation. It was all arranged and approved by my Manager. I worked EST time and it caused no issues at all.
Note: my Manager himself was an immigrant and therefore very understanding of the situation I was in and the impact on mental health. So I think I was very lucky.

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Such a good question! Covid definitely made such a huge impact for me last year and this year. Otherwise, I use my vacation days (two weeks or so) to see my family annually

I certainly empathize with your situation but I take issue with your categorization as this not being “fair” because “others get to move back to their homes or work remotely from anywhere inside the states.” This statements screams lack of maturity and lack of basic comprehension of how the world works to me. Of course it’s not the same thing to work from Europe as to work from elsewhere in the US. We all make choices in this life and while many choices are neither good nor bad, they do come with consequences. If I chose to move to another country away from my family, the natural consequence of that choice is that I do not get to see them as often as I might like. And to then complain that it’s not “fair” that others, who didn’t choose to move to a different country, get to see their families? Please tell me you understand how absurd that sounds. Your company (and you) are beholden to the laws of the country you live in and the laws of countries you might want to visit. Your company may well want to support your request, but they didn’t make the laws. If you have an issue with those laws, take it up with the lawmakers.

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Umm, nowhere did you indicate English is not your first language. I’m sorry your parents passed - that is truly awful 😞. And yes, these are unusual times, but that doesn’t mean the laws around remote work have changed. Just as you wish your boss would approach the situation from a place of understanding, surely you can extend the same courtesy to your boss and company.

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I’m sure there’s other implications that made him hesitant, including pay, taxes, etc. He probably can’t commit to that without knowing those details from the company

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There are tax implications if you work from a new location for over 22 days (in the us you’d need a new W2 for that state and will pay taxes in both states).

I think it’s the tax laws associated with working overseas. Lot more complicated for European countries which are generally higher tax

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I did it for months in Germany before getting a visa and had no issue. I was freelance however. If you position it as a long vacation and keeping up with what’s happening in the office, I’m sure you’d be fine. Digital nomads do it religiously. How would anyone know?

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At least at my firm we cannot work outside of the US - major tax issues that can get you in big trouble.

I have friends who have worked from Asia over the last year with no problems so you’ll just have to figure out what is behind the hesitancy.

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I think you’re right, it seems like that’s the common feedback I’m getting. Thank you for this!

In addition to tax implication there are other export-import laws that come into effect. Yes, you may do absolutely nothing wrong, but creating precedent for it opens up the company to issues.

It’s like writing your password on a sticky note under your key board. Sure, no one may see it and nothing may happen, but it only takes that one incident to become an issue. The rules need to be applied firmly to prevent that rare risk from materializing.

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Excellent point, thank you for this!

There are tax, P&L and legal implications to who lives where. There is an HR process to move MUs.

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😂 of course it’s fair, your employer is an American company. There’s are tax implications for them and yourself if you leave the US to work remotely.

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OP, your employer may have its HQ in Europe, but if you’re employed in the US, you’re likely employed by an American entity of that corporation (e.g., an LLC vs an LTD). So in that sense, you do work for an American company. They may sit under the same corporate umbrella, but for tax and legal purposes, there are separate companies for each country.

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There are rules and laws to follow. And would you really make yourself available for meetings/office events?

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We don’t have events, we’re fully remote. And yes to the meetings and yes to any overtime

If you’re fully remote, could you just go and not say anything? How would anyone know where you are? 😂

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This!! 😂

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Yea this is a HR issue, i would not care

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I also know folks who have worked from Europe for an extended period of time during covid. Not sure how they handled taxes but got approved by the Manager

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This made me happy to read

It’s called a tax headache.

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