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I once found out my male counterpart made more than me. Because of this, I went to my boss and asked for a raise. His response was to tell me it’s a fireable offense to know someone else’s salary, that witnesses to murders get killed for a reason, and that he doesn’t believe in affirmative action. I know all of that is bullshit but he did say one thing that I’m now wondering, is this true? He said—never ask for a raise because your male counterpart makes more, ask for one because you deserve it.

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If you’re doing just as much work and at the same quality as your counterpart, then wouldn’t you *deserve* to make the same? Asking for equal pay isn’t a fireable offense, but it sounds like some of what he said might have been.

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Threatening to fire someone for sharing salaries is actually against the law - so besides being bs like you mentioned it is illegal

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Lol what? Did he seriously say all that? Report to HR in writing. Then make it clear that you do deserve it obviously, but finding out the obvious discrepancy kick started a conversation.

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I doubt it only because HR has the company’s back and this is a legal issue. But also for OP’s sake/legal argument that’s why I would make the complaint in writing.

This guy is unhinged! I would report it as sounding like a threat. (Why are we talking about murder again??) Last time I negotiated a raise, you better believe I brought up my male partner’s salary! It’s fair game.

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This is why pay transparency is so dang important! It does not need to (and I happen to think, should not) be person by person, but published ranges for roles and commitment to staying within them takes the gossip out of the conversation and let’s people make choices for themselves. When people have no idea whether their salary is fair, they start talking and nothing good comes from colleagues sharing paychecks…unless it’s a straight rate job, nothing is truly equal and one person is always going to feel like crap. But if you know your range and you feel your place in it is fair (or unfair) you can act accordingly.

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Um. He needs to be reported. I worked for a man like that. Never again. Report him and get out of that toxic dump.

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It is definitely not a fireable offense.

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If, and that’s a big if, at your agency it’s a fireable offense, the person giving the info would be the one who would get fired, not the person receiving the info. Also, I would think the only person who would ever get fired would be if it was someone in HR who gave out that information. But I do agree, do t ask for the raise because someone else is making more, it should be because you are working hard, doing good work and deserve it.

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Leave - and quickly.

My two cents: Nothing that guy said is ok in any way. The only advice that was passable is that you should lead with what YOU deserve because of your contributions. Another’s salary is just evidence that your role is worth that much in the marketplace. At my first job I found out that everyone else was making more than me. I immediately went in to my boss, discussed my contributions and he agreed wholeheartedly. I then asked to be paid as much as my peers. I was given the raise on the spot.

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