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I really want to work in an office again. I like putting stuff on the walls, talking with people, the serendipity of things. I think it benefits the work. Who else is looking forward?

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I really missed going in at first and couldn’t wait to go back. Now you couldn’t drag me back. Even hybrid just sounds like a waste of time and energy. Working from home, I start 2 hours earlier than if I commuted. I can see my family and have dinner with them every night even if I have to work late. My relationship with my kids was good before. It’s great now. I’m also making some of the best work of my career. Do I miss seeing people in person? Sure. But now that in-person production is returning, I have that to scratch the itch. I’d also be willing to go to some kind of in-person event/gathering once or twice a month maybe. But that’s pretty much it. And I can honestly say I feel strongly enough to quit over it if it comes to that.

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With you 💯

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No. Romanticizing offices doesn’t work for me. I spent years of my life (100+ hour week, at times) in agencies and the amount of time it takes to do the job and lack of hostage-like dynamics present in a WFH scenario make it an easy answer. I’d freelanced for 5 years and saw an immediate quality of life increase on the days I didn’t have to commute, the freedom to walk my dog, take a nap if that hour between meetings occurred and I didn’t have to pretend to be busy when there was nothing to actually do. Feeling like you were being judged for the time you spent out of the office on a work day when in reality you were just concepting on a walk with your partner, etc. Being able to work from another state or another country for a day or week or month during COVID and STILL get the job done was amazing too. I’m the first to admit that we face a problem with new talent in this WFH scenario, but I’d also point out that by having them come into the office to “learn how to work” implies that our old system was somehow superior to… something new? Better? I don’t mind dropping by an office, seeing a few people, going to a meeting or clients office but Many clients aren’t going to come back either. Maybe we’re evolving as a species.

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I’m someone who’s energized by humans. I love coming into the office, but I also enjoy days when I don't have to. WFH provides freedom which has changed my life. As a new employee coming into an agency, it’s easier to go into the office, particularly - with the onboarding process. However, after my 60 days, I'll WFH more.

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As an introvert and neurodivergent, I work much better at home. Never would I be able to put on noise canceling headphones and close my eyes in an office environment. I'm not talking sleep, but I can't ideate with distractions. My best thoughts came up as I am laying in bed before sleep. It would be wonderful if the 2 days you go in were all meetings. Instead we had meetings every half hour with another 30 minutes to think. Hence we had to stay late to get work done. I have no desire to go back.

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That’s because you don’t have kids. Brainstorming at home when someone is ringing the bell, your kids are yelling and you have to clean a disaster one of your kids made at the bathroom is challenging. Trust me.

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Yes. We’ve convinced ourselves we don’t miss what we couldn’t have. It’s a survival instinct. But we do. And the work and the enjoyment of making the work is dramatically better when we’re together.

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Ngl, the junior in me is struggling but the human in me loves wfh

Not looking forward to wasting an hour of my life on a train, being completely exhausted when I get home to the point of not being to exercise or cook a meal. Or working more when I get home because there were too many distractions in the office. If companies want me back in the office I’m going to need to be substantially compensated to do it.

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Big same.

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A few days a week, yes. No more. Too much time wasted by commuting, and then most days sitting around the office with distractions. The lack of private space and open office is the problem.

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Maybe some creative leaders are preaching how necessary going back to the office is because they are failing to make the work better. CCO, maybe it’s not because your team is working from home. Maybe it is you. Just a thought.

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All good. 😊

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Oh no, I’m not angry, no worries! I was simply making a joke about the dying art of conversation. You shouldn’t feel everything is about you.

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Maybe I’m nuts. Maybe I’m lucky. But I like the kinds of people this industry attracts, for the most part. Artistic. Curious. Open. I often feel that working solely remote at an agency is all the bullshit w/o a few of the major perks: the energy, the people, the variance. Also, I personally find video conferencing as wasteful (if not more) than in-person meetings. Maybe others have a different situation, but my video stream is nonstop and utterly exhausting.

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Yes to the constant videos. Obviously the ones who reclaimed their WLB during office hours don't have the same schedules.

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no thanks 😅

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Ah yes the well known ingredients to creative serendipity: long commutes, time sheets, overpriced lunch, avoiding that one ECD who believes you should never have down time, account people following up on emails in person, your desk mate slurping coffee, being kicked out of conference rooms … that’s where the magic happens 😍😍😍😍😎😎

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I definitely am and I love those things, too. I just don't want them to interfere when I'm actually trying to, you know, work.

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I’ll never go back. There’s no putting the genie back in the bottle. 🧞‍♀️

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Completely agree OP. As someone who has voluntarily gone back to the office, I’ve found I’m way more productive here and have benefitted from having a bit of facetime with people I normally wouldn’t. I’m also lucky to be at a place that’s letting people stay at home/continue to work remotely. Some people have benefited from this and there’s no reason to upend that.

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Flexibility would be great. I know some people like the office chit chat or want to get away from their housemates. Totally get that. But I never, ever want to go back into the office.

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I care a lot more about what benefits my family than "the work" lol. You're selling shit nobody needs, does a Dunkin donuts ad really matter more to you than your friends and family?

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I miss that sometimes but then I remember that I never used to be able to get anything done and used to take work home frequently. And I also remember getting home at 8pm not having the energy to cook, do any hobbies and just choosing to mindlessly watch some tv show. Not sure I want to go back there

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Sure the work might get done a bit more efficiently (?) but the politics of an agency life and having to put on a certain pesona when you’re around people for work not fun (you could refute this but there’s no way you could be and act the same way when your alone vs in a public setting) is detrimental to your performance. Pros and cons but If you miss the vibe and people in your office then you’re right to want to return.

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I've definitely felt much safer and easier being myself, my anxiety has lessened immensely. But I'm also picking up on behaviors from others that might be easier to smooth out in person.

🙋🏻‍♂️ was excited to commute to the office for the first time. It's just nice to have that mental, geographical, and spatial separation.

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