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Now start getting the vermin out of the WH...
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I think he’s definitely going to win the nomination.
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I will help. I will vote for Bernie in an open primary state. I am :)
Again implies it was rigged last time. Bernie lost the primary by millions of votes, and Donna Brazille "leaking" a question about water quality in Flint Michigan of all places didn't cause that.
Yes because Sanders supporters made a huge stink about it. Frankly I think it was a good idea in the interest of avoiding such perceptions in the future. That's not evidence of impact.
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It’s not the DNC who’s ruining Bernie, it’s the irrational fear of democratic socialism in America.
Wait... Do people not remember that in 2016 the DNC literally sabotaged Bernie to ensure that Hillary was the nominee? That was only 4 years ago, how have you forgotten that?
How in the world are there two different comments here chastising the OP for “sounding white”? What does that even mean? How is that relevant?
“sounds like a privileged statement that a white person would say” is blatantly racist
D1 - I have wasted far too much time on this discussion, so this will be my last post on the matter.
You have accused me multiple times of being off topic and not addressing your “privilege” comments. If you scroll to the very top, you’ll find that I’m the one that began this whole conversation and have stayed consistent throughout, so if anyone has veered from the original topic it is you. You said “this entire subject from the very beginning has been about while people being privileged”, but as the person that began the conversation I can assure you it was not. The entire premise was about the racism of declaring statements to be “white”
You gave a half-hearted apology saying you went too far, and in the same comment said I was overly sensitive and screaming about being treated unfairly. In fact, the sentence after your “apology” was an excuse for your wrong behavior in the first place.
Honestly, I would love to have had this conversation face to face, as I’m sure you would have acted differently in person. I’m open to these types of conversations, and willing to hear other views, but moral superiority from anonymous keyboard activists doesn’t do the trick
I can take Bernie losing fair and square to Trump. But if the DNC rigs the nomination again.... I’m done
It’s not the solid democratic voters that are going to get Bernie elected. It’s the voters that are moderate or independent. The mid to left voters are all ready voting for him. I can’t understand why Bernie supporters are so dogmatic and willing to throw the baby out with the bath water.
If trump wins because Bernie gets nominated. I’m done. If Bernie wins, I’ll say I was wrong and fully support his agenda.
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You sound super white
This is an absurd string of posts from Bernie supporters...someone said something negative about my candidate...therefore it’s rigged! Don’t trust the MSM!
Now Bernie is out there touting a plurality of delegates means he should get the nomination...so now, not only do you have to touch Bernie with kid gloves, but we have to change the rules in the middle of the game to make sure he wins. Sorry folks that is not how this works. Keep in mind, your candidate is getting ~25% of the vote...it’s not like there’s this huge groundswell of Bernie support that’s somehow being suppressed!
Oh man...don’t get me started on Bernie being the left version of trump...the Russians supporting him is only the latest, from:
- his refusal to release his tax returns in 2016 (and his super delayed release after promising to do so this time around)
- his new refusal to release his health records (despite promising to do so months ago)
- his campaign spokeswoman’s blatant disregard for the truth (claiming that Bloomberg had a heart attack and that he was personally accused of sexual ASSAULT by 65 women...both of which are blatantly untrue)
- he and his supporters constant refrain of never trusting the mainstream media
-...
Sure sounds like a privileged statement that a white person would say. "I will vote Trump if I don't get what I want! Sure things may suck, but it won't suck as much for me so it's worth the risk".
That’s like drinking poison because you don’t like the taste of water. Do as you wish. It was this kind of foolishness that put Trump at the helm of affairs. How’s that working for you.
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All this is debate is going to be irrelevant because Bernie is 100% going to be the nominee. Let’s talk if he actually isn’t the nominee or if delegates go to like Bloomberg or something despite losing votes compared to Bernie.
If you can justify voting for trump because bernie loses a nomination, you aren’t following his (or any democratic candidate) main objective - to make trump a one-term president. This post can be filed away with “I’ll move to Canada...”
Magically the “health” question appeared... that was how I know the corporate establishment was back in attack mode.
People care more about things when they appear more likely to win. Why did Warrens plan get beat up when she looked more likely to win? Why did everyone clobber Bloomberg this week?
Because they were doing well! This is not some unique conspiracy against Bernie. If he’s not looking likely to win, who cares if his doctor thinks he’s gonna die in the next 4 years. Now that he’s the front runner, people are going to start asking these questions more frequently.
If Bernie and his supporters can’t handle the heat now, I don’t know what to tell you about the shit he’ll face as the nominee...
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The DNC didn’t ruin Bernie. The media is definitely trying to downplay him though
I am getting tired of corporate, white, cat lady, 401k voters hating on actual economic justice... and structural reform.
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Did these people disclose they were white or are you assuming? They didn’t tell you they were white. And then there are implications of racism but I don’t recall them making racist comments. What was racist again?
Touché?