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Have you considered doing reduced hours? It’s working very well for me and I still get paid much more than I would at other jobs.
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Yes how do you set boundaries and are you still respected at the firm?
Not a lawyer but know that all the marketing legal counsels I've ever worked with said moving into marketing compliance gave them much better balance. It's def more a 9-5 gig and doesn't (usually) get more complicated than reviewing advertising claims or the odd sponsorship proposal/contract🤣
Depends on what type of law you practice and what firm you’re coming from? Depending on your area of practice there’s a lot of different options, many of which aren’t an enormous pay cut! PM me a lot of my attorney friends have recently made similar switches.
Staff attorney-type role at a firm was my exit. I make a lot less, but I also work a lot less (and entirely from home), and on a predictable schedule that I get to mostly set myself.
Consulting-OGC (in house) role.
A couple of options:
1. Become “of counsel” which essentially means you aren’t a full time attorney at the firm. Different forms have different requirements/pay structures for their of counsel. My old firm has two of counsel who are older and don’t want to practice full time. Not fully sure on their pay arrangement.
2. Solo practice depending on what you do/practice area and how much you need your income (ie are you supplementing family income or primary breadwinner?). For instance in NY family courts and criminal courts have 18-b/assigned counsel lists and I know lots of solo practitioners who get on those lists and handle some small private clients. How much your income makes is dependent on how much you hustle/want to bring in income (both as a fully private solo or court appointed solo). So you can make your own schedule and mostly control it all. Keep in mind it can be more time consuming than private practice if you’re looking to replace a private practice income.
3. In house is, I hear, where it’s at for family friendly with private income. No billables, decent benefits. Etc. I have no particular knowledge of this area.
4. Government. Tends to have better hours and paid leave time (and you’re not making up hours for days you’re off). Plus you get most holidays (think federal/state holidays) off which is helpful for child care issues on that day. Also, a lot of government offices right now have some flexibility still (ie if your kid is sick and you need to work from home you may get the okay for a day or two).
5. Non profits. Operate similar to government except usually more efficiently. Lots of them have WFH still or remote positions. Again, not sure if this a viable change over for you depending on your experience.
6. Any kind of fully remote job? This can vary wildly. Are you looking private or not for this if it’s just about being home?
7. Some sort of educational institution. Think a Title IX investigator position at a college, which usually requires a law degree or license. Also has some great benefits, particularly if you have any kids of an age where college isn’t so far off. Again, whether you may be right for this depends on your experience.
Coach
Do not go Big Four. I did. They treat lawyers poorly.
I’m so sorry to hear. I hope you can find something better soon!
In house eliminates the stress of billing - you just get our stuff done and you don’t have to worry about meeting billables. I also like in house because you can be involved with the business side of things and the strategy. Nevertheless, even though I have a pretty decent gig and work life balance, I am also ready to move on to a different non-legal role but it’s not that easy. I feel like the women you see who have had many different kinds of roles throughout their career were at the right place at the right time and has the right people by their side. So, it’s mostly luck. I’ll probably ride this out until some restructuring and I get a package and then will see what happens next.
Business affairs at an agency :)
I work at MetLife and Real Estate attorneys opening are available. PM me if you'd like more details.
Can you tell me about the comp range for the senior attorney role at MetLife? Also, how long is the recruiting process from first contact to offer?
My company is looking for attorneys. Decent WLB. DM me if interested.
What type of law do you practice?
Corporate litigation and a bit of non-union employment, as needed, as well
In house!
I’m a lawyer at pwc. They kind of treat lawyers better than CPAs in my opinion. I feel like I have pretty good stability and I generally work 9-5. Tax consulting
Hire a professional coach. This woman focuses on the legal industry. https://www.wgbcoaching.com
What about academia or legal recruiting?