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PhD here. I would argue any good program will require full dedication
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No helpful advice but I love your ambition.
Thanks! It’s really just passion. I love going to school. lol I love learning and writing papers and creating. I love having intellectual discussions with scholarly people. My master’s focused on “industry” and it’s not the same as scholarly research which is where my heart is. A lot of the online programs are not very scholarly.
I feel like any PhD worth it’s salt would have a stipend and want you to commit full time, I’d just lean in and do that if you want to do a PhD
God I feel like this is my most frequent rant on fishbowl.
I WISH I had a PhD and I spend a lot of my free time reading/listening/watching physicists who have them talk about stuff. My degrees are not in physics but that could have been me.
PhD is WORTHLESS unless you want to have the career of a professor. Corarlary, if you want to be an academic for the rest of your life, it is a NECESSARY condition, with TENURE being the SUFFICIENT condition.
It's actually kind of a scam. It is personal to me because I have loved ones who got lured into PhDs in (made up to protect innocent) 'clog dancing' that have been serially unemployable for decades. There are 3 prestigious clog dancing programs in the country and each produces 3 PhDs each year from the 3 available programs, every year, taught by the same 3 professors, who are tenured til they die, 30-80 years. There is no room for new professors, so why play the game?
PhD is NOT A BETTER MASTERS!! If you have a masters, and you went to a real school, you're supposed to have mastered your field. If you can't create value in a biz with an MS in your field, the problem isn't your education.
In my biz, PhDs report to a salesperson who has a highschool education. Yes the PhDs are doing cool stuff but the HS person who survived to that point could probably just make shit up and sell just as well.
Though love: If you think you need a PhD to be accepted, loved, validated, judged by your peers as being accepted, what you actually need is a therapist.
#1 attribute needed to make it is grit, #1 attribute to stay there is kindness.
I get it where are you are coming from. I agree PhD is useless but only for some fields. For example, tech, biz or consulting jobs.
Apart from CS or coding related jobs, PhD does add value. For example, you can never get a PhD level job in any biopharma or heavy engineering types of industries.
And yes, to be a tenure- track with a research lab PhD is a must.
In short, it really depends on the field. And also having PhD doesn't mean good compensation, actually it's considerably less in most of the fields.
I ditto the comment above. For most people, PhD is not necessary unless your goal is to stay in academia. I have a PhD in a science field but later got an MBA so that I can transition to industry. My PhD is completely useless now, except for bragging rights and maybe attracting some recruiters on LinkedIn.
Yes that is your decision to make. I definitely know people who do research for the love of it even though it may not pay well.
Let me reframe the question because I don’t need lectures about getting a PhD:
1. Is educational leave a thing at Deloitte?
2. How long can one take a sabbatical?
3. What is the likelihood of being re-hired as a boomerang after some time off pursuing education?
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#1 and 2 ask HR, #3 it depends
I think you can do both. I did my PhD at a top 10 university in the US. I didn’t work for two years and just hammered out coursework, then started working part time starting in my third year, and then went full time while I was writing my dissertation. I finished in 5.5 years. It was definitely busy, but I think you can do it.
The first year of a Ph.D. Program is about learning the body of knowledge of your area. Yes you can do much of it at home reading unless it is an applied science type with labs or similar. The key during this year is to find out what great questions you have in the area have already been investigated by other smart people dedicated to this area. You come up with something great and find that someone researched it ten years ago. Rinse and repeat. Finally you read enough and talk with your professors and other students to find a slice that has not been answered but has value to the field and at least one of your professors. This becomes your dissertation and research path.
I was a professor and worked with phd students. We often had students at different stages of life and were flexible. The first year is often the core theoretic foundations so it may not offer tremendous flexibility until you get those in place. After the first two years of coursework, there were really no expectations for people to be full time. It really can’t hurt to talk with the head of the department on flexibility options if you have a few preferred options.
Why would you wanna get PhD dude. It's almost impossible to do it part time. It's like working with slickest manager but your program will be 5 years with $28k pay and you will not earn anything significantly different than what you are earning now. Instead of you work for 5 more years, you would be close to being a partner.
Lol sorry didn't realize you are in it for love of doing research. Nevermind, ignore the rant above. If you could be more specific about the field, would love to give you details at my university.
At D. As a PhD here in GPS I’d second/third the fact that you don’t need that but it seems like you’ve heard that spiel enough already…
No real special sabbatical leave for education if you’re in core. Sabbatical length depends on your years at D.
As for 3 - highly likely! Like all things at D just keep up your relationships…