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Is your manager planning on returning from leave?
If so, I recommend that you ask about the plans for coverage during the leave and volunteer to take on some of it to either get the experience or demonstrate that you have the chops to perform at the higher level.
Thanks! That’s the plan. We will see how it goes!
1) Roles don’t “open” when someone takes leave. It’s actually illegal to fire someone because they have a baby.
2) you just got promoted, do you really think you’ve learned everything about your new role AND are capable of learning a second new role. Your current role takes at least a year to learn for the most successful individual, more to master it.
3) your second level boss will likely either bring in a freelancer to support or take on more work themselves. Instead of getting title hungry, you should take the time with your boss to learn as much as possible before they are out.
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M1 - you should really read the entirety of the thread before posting.
1) Someone HAS to fill the role when the manager is out on leave
2) The role is a temporary assignment
3) The OP has already discussed this opportunity with their manager and director
Take your negative attitude elsewhere, please.
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I guess it depends on the company and their promotion structure. Who makes the call on promotions? Does your manager need to sign-of? Do you have a talent council?
In most companies your manager has control of your destiny when it comes to promotions/raises. Your manager should have an idea of your ambitions and growth goals in the company. You applying for a promotion shouldn’t come as a surprise to them.
With that said, anything is possible. It wouldn’t hurt to apply. Assuming there is zero politics at play. My advice would be to think about the responsibilities required for the promotion. Are you able/prepared to meet these responsibilities and add value in the role?
Secondly, can you craft a story to how you’ve performed in the new role since the promotion? If you haven’t executed with excellence as a Sr Manager, it’s hard to convince leadership you would as a Director.
Coach
Awesome, BM! Would love to hear how it goes and help with any other questions.
One way to think about corporate success Is the PIE model, founded by GE. Personally, I wasn’t a not a huge fan when I was at P&G, but it doesn’t make it less true. Roughly defined: Performance (the WHAT; results achieved, work plan), Image (the HOW; working inside the process and effectively building equity with collaborators), Exposure (the HOW; effectively managing up, & developing strong optics and experience with higher level leadership, usually Band 5+). The lesson here is the HOW as just as important (or more) as the WHAT. Don’t forget about the I & E! Lean on your manager and mentors for advice, planning, feedback, and/or to identify outages. Great managers help you develop strategies to win across each slice of PIE.
Treat applying for a job as "an expression of interest", no one is upset with anyone for being interested in a job. No one has to take job just because they were interested.
Apply now and decide later!
Just wanted to report back that I had the conversation with my manager (going on parental leave soon) and my one-up, my Director.
Both were incredibly supportive of me taking on my manager’s role whilst she is on leave. I framed it as a great way to meet some of my goals in my development plan. I acknowledged it would be hard work and a steep learning curve, but I’m up for it.
Really grateful for all the advice I received here and also for the team I am in for trusting in me. Thanks guys
she’s going on parental leave. she will be back for her job, no…? is the job formally open or are you just assuming you can make a run for her role?
She will be back in eight months. The role is a temporary cover role. Her role will be advertised as a fixed term contract role.