I was taking interview today for one of the candidate for my project. That guy already has 4 offers (220% hike) but he wanted to join nagarro because as per him opening in nagarro is more align to his skill set. (Asking for 250 %)

I rejected him without any question. Reason

I know he will be able to ans each and every ques and he might be a good fit for this opening but I know he will not join this company. (40 days left for his notice period)

Not sure if I was right but it was worth it.

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🥂 to the guy who gets selected for this position & deserves this job desperately.

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OP:It's for people like you that most of the employees are underpaid as per market standards. Please come out of your mindset. It is not up to you to decide your organisation would have given a 220% hike or not. Your job was just to interview him about the job. You failed miserably as an interviewer.

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People often take 1 month long interviews with 3-4 rounds and yet want a person having 1 month notice period. If he has 40 days remaining in all likelihood your rounds will take 2 weeks and HR will take another week. So, by the time you extend the offer he will hardly have a week or 10 days remaining.

More importantly if he has got 220% hike it means that he was already underpaid. I don't see any person having a package above 25 getting 220% hike. The chances of that are really slim. In the above case I feel that your judgement was poor as the candidate in question was only after money, he was underpaid, even a 230% raise would have made him join your company

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This is standard (in current scenario) with most of the candidates.
Regarding right or wrong.
I would say,
it is a personal choice to reject him even though the individual can bring value to the role.

But if you feel you did the right thing then you were right he might have done more shopping on top of your offer.

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it's TCS giving suggestion who don't give offers still hiring freshers on 3.5-4 lpa which is salary hahahaha

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What was his current salary? I know 100-120% is common these days.....but 200+ seems too high

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He was asking reasonable amount as per experience.
Why you ask and judge as per their current salary??
What if the person was already earning 15 then you would have given him 20+ happily, Isn’t it?

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Maybe not...I doubt any company will give him more than 220% hike..There is a limit ..one cannot just go on grabbing more offers and hike..at this stage companies might just match his highest offer

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20 to 90? Can you please share the details

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OP decided to be judge jury and executioner while his job was to just interview. Probably OP is getting paid peanuts and crying in corner after seeing 4yoe having 16lpa. 😂 What's your company name again OP ??!!😂😂

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Probably OP thought this will be like that linkedIn post to say story for moral values

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There are many things you have to consider here-
1. In technical interview you don't have to ask salary so that you can compare your own salary with that, it is a HR round talks and leave those to them- don't be jealous because he has the ability to get higher pay than you.
2. People go offer shopping because companies like your try to hire candidate underpaid by giving hike on current CTC rather than considering skills- terrible thing in IT industry with their old mindset.
3. You can't just decide that he will join or not, its your mistake as a company that you are unable to provide enough reasons, opportunities and salary to make candidate to join the company- reason being too many people to join in market and company take leverage of them.
4. You fail terribly as a interviewer/senior and clouded in your ego rather than guiding the young generation to right way by giving him the right reason.
5. Worst thing to show off here and saying it was worth it, like you have won something (may be your ego). You don't have any right when you can't help young generation.

Get out of your ego, work on your skills as a interviewer rather than being a judge.

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He was tactless in my opinion. Should've told about the highest offer explicitly & not a word about other..😂😂

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Overconfidence kills you. Clouds your judgement!

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Well, it's subjective. I'm having an offer which is 80% hike on my current salary, Today I got a call from a company and HR was trying to convince me to settle for lesser than what I'm having. Ideally employees would have in mind that there would be some other party that could offer even better and in the present market gates for better offers are open. I think your guy got lucky if he had what he said he had and made it through 200+ hike. He'd have options irrespective of his selection. I'm sure he'd go for the gates which are still open for him. I'm surely not doubting your decision but I'm sure the other 4 companies that he had offer from would have thought the same but offered him the offers that he had having some backup candidate anyway.
Having said that, I'm on the side where I'm still trying to make through the gates but haven't been lucky :-)

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If he was severely underpaid in his last job, this is totally acceptable.

I have seen people work for 3.5L for 3 years with good skills where they can end up getting 10L by interviewing at different places.

This happens because companies pay potential employees what they can least afford and not maximum. In tech, employees are having more grip more than ever before.

Context is needed to judge anyone and at the same time greedy people will always be there.

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With 4 years I have 18 fixed as package. Let the company decide if they want to give the guy that much money, you are there to just judge his skills nothing more nothing less.

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Thats why you shouldn't tell 4 offers.
You should tell just the highest offer.

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Lesson learnt lol

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Seems u r jealous of the candidate... 😜
Ur job is to take the interview and not to discuss package in technical interview and reject the candidate on the basis of his salary expectations. Grow up!

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Companies should not offer salary considering what he is getting currently... companies should calculate the employees salary on the basis of the skill sets and total year of experience he has. If someone in your company getting 20 Lacs for same skill set and years of experience then why not he should get the same salary. But the reality is all the companies are corrupt and have zero ethics. Government should make some law where companies cannot ask for current salary of the employees, they should just ask the expectations from the employees. Knowing our current salary gives them extra advantage in the negotiations.

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There is no need for govt to take any action. These companies who are looking for cheap employee will automatically diminish when all their employee will leave for better options. And they will still be looking for the cheaper and leftovers.

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Do you guys discuss the compensation part in the regular interview process?
Have interviewed many candidates and its never a part of my job at an interview. Its best left for the HR round. Also its against the guidelines for most firms.

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Correct

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This is going on everywhere, companies won't pay the expected salaries based on your talent, they will pay you based on your current salary or the offer you hold..
This is the reason a candidate has to go through multiple companies and collect so many offers..

Is it wrong to try and maximize your salary ? How often an employee tries to switch.. and all the stress and uncertainties which comes with changing organizations..before securing your first offer , which is already very difficult with 90 days notice..

In this particular case you can't blame the candidate or the interviewer as well...
Both are right in their own perspective..

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Kindly request everyone criticising OP to try & understand this -

The primary reason for rejecting the candidate was the number of offers in hand and days left in notice period and not the candidate's current or expected CTC.

With 5 offers & 40 days, chances of leveraging OP's offer for a better one was high. Would any one of you hire someone knowing that chances of that candidate joining is relatively low?

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People trying to take chances on notice period .. offer can be cancelled

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OP: It wasn't your job to decide how much he should be paid , your job was to take interview. Let the HRs and management do their job.

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Rightly said. Because of biased folks like OP people stay underpaid. This affects everyone’s earning potential. No wonder india offers cheap Labor.

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Unless you are CEO, It's not your duty to think if he is going to join or not. Let company decides. You just evaluate based on skills. Do only your damn duty

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Policy differs from organizations to organizations. HR does not always decide these things. In deloitte usi there is a fitment assessment where this can be a ground for dismissal. Decision taken by the manager,not hr.

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I don't know what's the deal here but I have seen people holding 11 offers 😂 so let the company pay him, its not like you are paying him from your pocket.

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