I was taking interview today for one of the candidate for my project. That guy already has 4 offers (220% hike) but he wanted to join nagarro because as per him opening in nagarro is more align to his skill set. (Asking for 250 %)

I rejected him without any question. Reason

I know he will be able to ans each and every ques and he might be a good fit for this opening but I know he will not join this company. (40 days left for his notice period)

Not sure if I was right but it was worth it.

likefunnysmartupliftinghelpful
Posting as :
works at
You are currently posting as works at
Highlighted IconHIGHLIGHTED

🥂 to the guy who gets selected for this position & deserves this job desperately.

likefunnysmart

OP:It's for people like you that most of the employees are underpaid as per market standards. Please come out of your mindset. It is not up to you to decide your organisation would have given a 220% hike or not. Your job was just to interview him about the job. You failed miserably as an interviewer.

likefunnyupliftinghelpfulsmart

People often take 1 month long interviews with 3-4 rounds and yet want a person having 1 month notice period. If he has 40 days remaining in all likelihood your rounds will take 2 weeks and HR will take another week. So, by the time you extend the offer he will hardly have a week or 10 days remaining.

More importantly if he has got 220% hike it means that he was already underpaid. I don't see any person having a package above 25 getting 220% hike. The chances of that are really slim. In the above case I feel that your judgement was poor as the candidate in question was only after money, he was underpaid, even a 230% raise would have made him join your company

like
Recent IconRecent

This is standard (in current scenario) with most of the candidates.
Regarding right or wrong.
I would say,
it is a personal choice to reject him even though the individual can bring value to the role.

But if you feel you did the right thing then you were right he might have done more shopping on top of your offer.

like

it's TCS giving suggestion who don't give offers still hiring freshers on 3.5-4 lpa which is salary hahahaha

like

What was his current salary? I know 100-120% is common these days.....but 200+ seems too high

like

He was asking reasonable amount as per experience.
Why you ask and judge as per their current salary??
What if the person was already earning 15 then you would have given him 20+ happily, Isn’t it?

likeuplifting

OP decided to be judge jury and executioner while his job was to just interview. Probably OP is getting paid peanuts and crying in corner after seeing 4yoe having 16lpa. 😂 What's your company name again OP ??!!😂😂

likefunnyuplifting

Probably OP thought this will be like that linkedIn post to say story for moral values

likefunny

Maybe not...I doubt any company will give him more than 220% hike..There is a limit ..one cannot just go on grabbing more offers and hike..at this stage companies might just match his highest offer

like

20 to 90? Can you please share the details

like

There are many things you have to consider here-
1. In technical interview you don't have to ask salary so that you can compare your own salary with that, it is a HR round talks and leave those to them- don't be jealous because he has the ability to get higher pay than you.
2. People go offer shopping because companies like your try to hire candidate underpaid by giving hike on current CTC rather than considering skills- terrible thing in IT industry with their old mindset.
3. You can't just decide that he will join or not, its your mistake as a company that you are unable to provide enough reasons, opportunities and salary to make candidate to join the company- reason being too many people to join in market and company take leverage of them.
4. You fail terribly as a interviewer/senior and clouded in your ego rather than guiding the young generation to right way by giving him the right reason.
5. Worst thing to show off here and saying it was worth it, like you have won something (may be your ego). You don't have any right when you can't help young generation.

Get out of your ego, work on your skills as a interviewer rather than being a judge.

likeupliftingsmarthelpful

He was tactless in my opinion. Should've told about the highest offer explicitly & not a word about other..😂😂

likesmarthelpfulfunny

Overconfidence kills you. Clouds your judgement!

like

Well, it's subjective. I'm having an offer which is 80% hike on my current salary, Today I got a call from a company and HR was trying to convince me to settle for lesser than what I'm having. Ideally employees would have in mind that there would be some other party that could offer even better and in the present market gates for better offers are open. I think your guy got lucky if he had what he said he had and made it through 200+ hike. He'd have options irrespective of his selection. I'm sure he'd go for the gates which are still open for him. I'm surely not doubting your decision but I'm sure the other 4 companies that he had offer from would have thought the same but offered him the offers that he had having some backup candidate anyway.
Having said that, I'm on the side where I'm still trying to make through the gates but haven't been lucky :-)

like

If he was severely underpaid in his last job, this is totally acceptable.

I have seen people work for 3.5L for 3 years with good skills where they can end up getting 10L by interviewing at different places.

This happens because companies pay potential employees what they can least afford and not maximum. In tech, employees are having more grip more than ever before.

Context is needed to judge anyone and at the same time greedy people will always be there.

like

With 4 years I have 18 fixed as package. Let the company decide if they want to give the guy that much money, you are there to just judge his skills nothing more nothing less.

like

Thats why you shouldn't tell 4 offers.
You should tell just the highest offer.

likefunnysmart

Lesson learnt lol

like

Seems u r jealous of the candidate... 😜
Ur job is to take the interview and not to discuss package in technical interview and reject the candidate on the basis of his salary expectations. Grow up!

like

Companies should not offer salary considering what he is getting currently... companies should calculate the employees salary on the basis of the skill sets and total year of experience he has. If someone in your company getting 20 Lacs for same skill set and years of experience then why not he should get the same salary. But the reality is all the companies are corrupt and have zero ethics. Government should make some law where companies cannot ask for current salary of the employees, they should just ask the expectations from the employees. Knowing our current salary gives them extra advantage in the negotiations.

like

There is no need for govt to take any action. These companies who are looking for cheap employee will automatically diminish when all their employee will leave for better options. And they will still be looking for the cheaper and leftovers.

likesmart

Do you guys discuss the compensation part in the regular interview process?
Have interviewed many candidates and its never a part of my job at an interview. Its best left for the HR round. Also its against the guidelines for most firms.

like

Correct

like

This is going on everywhere, companies won't pay the expected salaries based on your talent, they will pay you based on your current salary or the offer you hold..
This is the reason a candidate has to go through multiple companies and collect so many offers..

Is it wrong to try and maximize your salary ? How often an employee tries to switch.. and all the stress and uncertainties which comes with changing organizations..before securing your first offer , which is already very difficult with 90 days notice..

In this particular case you can't blame the candidate or the interviewer as well...
Both are right in their own perspective..

like

Kindly request everyone criticising OP to try & understand this -

The primary reason for rejecting the candidate was the number of offers in hand and days left in notice period and not the candidate's current or expected CTC.

With 5 offers & 40 days, chances of leveraging OP's offer for a better one was high. Would any one of you hire someone knowing that chances of that candidate joining is relatively low?

like

People trying to take chances on notice period .. offer can be cancelled

like

OP: It wasn't your job to decide how much he should be paid , your job was to take interview. Let the HRs and management do their job.

like

Rightly said. Because of biased folks like OP people stay underpaid. This affects everyone’s earning potential. No wonder india offers cheap Labor.

likesmart

Unless you are CEO, It's not your duty to think if he is going to join or not. Let company decides. You just evaluate based on skills. Do only your damn duty

like

Policy differs from organizations to organizations. HR does not always decide these things. In deloitte usi there is a fitment assessment where this can be a ground for dismissal. Decision taken by the manager,not hr.

like

I don't know what's the deal here but I have seen people holding 11 offers 😂 so let the company pay him, its not like you are paying him from your pocket.

likefunny

Related Posts

Hi Fishes, Anyone knows about Saksoft company. How is it. And did anyone recently give interviews

I just graduated with my MS in Health Information Management. Any jobs in NYC in this particular field (first time in this field)? Provide links. 🫶🏼

Also what is the starting salary? It would be my first time in this field. 😺

• Bachelors degree in Radiologic Sciences (x-ray tech)
• Master of Science in Health Information Management

like

Hello fishes..How much salary to expect with 14 YOE for devops role at grade 9 in Nokia?

like
likefunny

If I know I am making more than what the job I am interviewing for would most likely offer, what should I say if the recruiter asks what my target comp is? Realistically I’d take a pay cut to join this firm, but don’t want to outwardly say that upfront. Thoughts? Talking ~20-30k difference

like

*calling big Pharma professionals* my friend wanted me to hop on and ask about a salary that she has received working as a quality insurance coordinator for one of the top 15 pharmaceutical companies. She is making 65,000 Canadian and that would narrow down to 50,000 USD, she wanted some insight on how much quality assurance or regulatory affairs associates or other levels make? Also is she being underpaid or is that the current market rate at the moment. Thanks in advance

like

DM for Accenture referral in following skills, EXP-2.5 to 10 yrs.

Post Photo
like

Recently, we are seeing 2Cr+ packages being offered to IITs fresh graduates.

I'm wondering
What are the special skills IITians possess that they are par from even 10-15Yoe in other companies while being freshers only?

What work will they do at such companies that they are being offered this much?

What non-IITians with experience should do to get similar salaries?

While I'm aware that ~$100K is average to good salary for fresh graduates in US but some companies offering similar in India!

like

Anyone here work for an endowment fund that can comment on work, comp, pros/cons, etc.? My HH sent me an opportunity. Did not see much in this bowl about endowments

like

Hey y’all! Can anyone confirm whether or not our coaches have to be our project managers? I was told this at one point. Either way, does anyone know where it officially states that?

About to apply for a job through a company’s job portal and there’s an input field for desired salary; does anyone leave blank? Say something like “prefer to talk tin person”?
Thank you in advance

Hello, currently looking ideas and mentoring to start up a business to import coffee from the Caribbean. Any suggestions for agencies or non profit companies that help new entrepreneurs with this kind of project?. The main idea is to import coffee to sell to retail stores or an exclusive market for coffee lovers.

like

Is it better to get assigned to a small engagement a role above your current role (acting senior/mgr/ senior manager) or is it better to be assigned to a large account on your current role? Or is there no difference in theses two situations?

like
like

Boston SFA 5 years exp (Corporate finance). My research shows 110-120k for comp range. Does that sound right to others here?

Hi Fishes,

Good Evening!!

I got an offer from Wells Fargo and planned to join next month. But my current organization compensated and retained me. I informed the same to Wells Fargo HR.

But hiring manager from Wells Fargo scolded me on ping and said that I won't get any opportunity from Wells Fargo in future.

Kindly let me know is it possible to block my profile.

Thanks.

like

How much salary does CRMNEXT offers to 1.8 years Jr.Engineer?

like

Uber is on hiring freeze!!@

like

When do you all expect for companies to start hiring again?

like

Hi,
Wipro is Hiring aggressively,

Please let me know and share your updated resume to:
snehijob@gmail.com along with Technology or JobId.

Subject: Wirpo Job Rafferal | <JobID> | < Your Name >

Java / .Net / NodeJs / Testing.

Experience : 1 to 5 years.

Happy Helping.

like

More Posts

Happy Ganesh Chaturthi everyone!!

likeuplifting

Will ey extend joining date by a week ?

like

Hi all! Anyone with contacts at Google in product marketing? Recently applied to their associate product marketing manager program and would love to make a connection with someone at the company.

like

How is work life balance in accenture?

like

I see a lot of posts for agencies in Berlin/London but I’m curious if there are any hot shops in Italy/France? Not super familiar with the European scene

like
like

Which one is a better career path for someone just starting in the construction industry? Design or project management? Whats a fair offer for an entry level position in each of them?

like

Anyone work in Identity governance in KGS?

I'm a US citizen living abroad I applied almost 11 months ago for my spouse. Married for years, kid. I wait and wait. It seems this will take 2 years, maybe more. I feel trapped. On one side the US system demands I work and domicile in US, the other side says families should be prioritized to stay together. My spouse has had enough of the process. I feel trapped abroad and locked in a dysfunctional system. We're just in limbo, it's depressing

like

Federal Consultant who transferred from PDM to PPD this past PY. Got a 3. S&O General Management. Any guess on what my raise and bonus would be? They said that they'd adjust my salary for the PDM to PPD transfer. Currently at $71,800 with a strategic masters and 8 years of non-consulting experience. I feel like I am at the low end of the band and would like to feel like my salary will go up a reasonable amount, but am tired of the disappointment.

like

Is there Associate 3 level at PwC India?

like

I just wanted to reach out and let you all know I understand how tired and beat down we all feel at this point in the year. I’m feeling it too. I also know exactly how students can try us. What I’m working on every day though is to see my kids as God does… not the kids that know how to push buttons and drive me crazy, but as the beautiful lives they are, all deserving of the best we can give them every day. I know it’s not easy, but that’s what I’m working on.

like

For people who have made a switch in this quarter:

How many competing offers did you guys have?
What percentage of hikes are you getting in this market?

likehelpful

Any thoughts on Protiviti for IT Audit? Specifically in the DC area?

Can anyone review on the scale of 5 how good the DATA STRUCTURE and ALGORITHM course of UDACITY offered by GOOGLE? (FREE)

I am going to complete it so need to know if it is good.
Also any other suggestions are entertained.

like

What are cheaper 1 year degree alternatives to an mba? I work in finance rn and am not really looking to switch careers after going to school, but want to chill for a year. Feel like an MBA is overkill. Any thoughts on a masters in finance degree or masters in international affairs?

like

I literally can't remember the last time I went grocery shopping. It must have been years...

like

Hello Folks,

My Current co offered me a salary below the market range and I have got it to their notice but finding tough luck in asking them to give me the industry standard range..

I am exploring new roles and when I tell new co abt my expected salary (as per current market standards) they find excuses to not consider the bump and say “ Oh we can give from your current sal “ any tips on how to negotiate and match my pay (as per industry standards) as I don’t want to be underpaid..

Thanks!

likeuplifting

Giving my two weeks notice tomorrow and celebrating the fact I made a successful transition out of law 🥳

likeuplifting

Hey Fish-folk,
Is it a good idea to leave a Developer role to join DevOps, Cloud Support, Cloud Ops, Technical Solutions Engineer, Cloud Solution Engineer roles in companies like Google, Amazon, Microsoft?
Career and pay wise?
Is the interview process as gruelling as SDE roles?
Could you people please provide some insights?

like

New to Fishbowl?

Download the Fishbowl app to
unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.
That was just a preview…
Sign Up to see all discussions
  • Discover what it’s like to work at companies from real professionals
  • Get candid advice from people in your field in a safe space
  • Chat and network with other professionals in your field
Sign up in seconds to unlock all discussions on Fishbowl.

Already a user?
Login here

Share

Embed this post

Copy and paste embed code on your site

Preview

Download the
Fishbowl app

See what’s happening in your industry
from the palm of your hand.

A phone with Fishbowl app

Send download link to your phone

OR

Scan your QR code to download
Fishbowl app on your mobile

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy.

Messaging rates may apply

Download app

Sign up for free to view this conversation on Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use and Privacy Policy

Already have an account? Log in

Sign up for free to continue using Fishbowl

By continuing you agree to Terms of Use(New) and Privacy Policy(New)
Messaging rates may apply

Already have an account? Log in

For account settings, visit Fishbowl on Desktop Browser or

General

Legal