I wish everyone could come together to protest against the electoral college, that’s the real enemy

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This is very simple

Keep the electoral college, but distribute the delegates based on the distribution of votes in each state instead of winner takes all. So all the small state fans and constitutionalists get their way but we basically have a popular vote

The narrative of electoral college favors small states misses the point. Electoral college emphasizes the importance of swing states not small states. Hence, Florida.

Winner takes all is not in the constitution. It’s just a policy that states instituted over time. Nobody can reasonably defend winner takes all based on any reasonable political theory. It meaningfully disenfranchises voters of the minority party in hard red and hard blue states It’s stupid policy, but no state will give it up individually because they worry others might not.

Hopefully Texas flips blue in the next 4-8 years. Then republicans will start taking electoral college reform.

If you want to get rid of small state over-representation, support the abolishment of the senate. That’s the truly undemocratic element within our government.

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But senators have zero to do with population and we're never intended to be equal to a percentage of the population. That is the house.

You are basically saying that the systems need to change because having a bigger population means a state should have a bigger voice in who the president. The is partially true but the senate makes shore population alone doesn't eliminate certain states voices.

No one advocated for a change when the popular vote getter also won, then you didn't care, but when you don't win then you want things changed. Maybe you should have asked for change when Barack had all the house and senate and have a wide popular appeal.

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1) so it seems you have an issue with some states having a minimum number of electors. Why do you have an issue with a system that guarantees regardless of population disparities that a state at least has some voice?
2) if a state wants to do that they can as you said two states already do. But what is sounds like you want to push for is the federal government saying how a state should do its elections.

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I disagree. The idea that the simple majority rules can be very dangerous when it comes to the head position. Saying 51% can remove the rights of 49% is a slippery slope.

It takes a whole coilition of different states, rural, southern, metropolis to win the presidency now.

The argument a president can with the electoral college with 23% of the popular vote is true but only the most perfect situation.

Plus let us remember the USA was designed to be a union of states not just one big territory. The person running for president should have to win the state, not just the big city.

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Conflating what the government can do to rights and the electoral college doesn’t make sense. Any system that lets 51% do something to the 49% is the same with an electoral college, except sometimes it’s the 49% doing it to the 51%.

Electoral college is a bit weird for those who already get like 1/10th the senate voice with voting. It’s hardly ideal to both be irrelevant for POTUS and take a fraction of the voting toward your senator.

Flip side to current situation (Trump could win even if he loses vote by 5% possibly) is if Texas can go blue, there are situations that if somehow Florida went blue, realistic chances Ds can win future races with as little as ~40% of the vote. You may see a Florida Democrat picked for POTUS by 2030 for this map situation.

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True confession- we wouldn’t be having this conversation if Hilary won.

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You do realize you were the one agreeing with SM1 that this only came up as a topic of discussion because of HRC, right?

The real issue here isn’t the electoral college, it’s that voter turnout is shockingly low

Why? Because there were 20 million more VAP but only 5 million showed up. So don't tell me it's from people who are jaded at 18

Yeah sure. So candidates would only go to CA, NY, IL and FL to campaign. Forget everyone/everywhere else

PWC1 great question. Because reality is they do not only pander to those states you mention. The policies suggested do not overwhelming benefit one state at the expense of other states. Where as if it was populous city vs country, then you would see different.

TOTALLY, 100% DISAGREE. There will be a break-up of the Union if that happens. We are a collection of United States. We are NOT provinces. The protection of less populous states is extremely important, and probably the most important tool to protect against majoritarian over-reach.

I love when people say "the founders didn't consider it" as if they were dumb and uneducated that the United States could grow...

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