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Amtrak is a third world disgrace. We could do much better if we invested more in our infrastructure rather than more navy ships and F35s. China's massive and brand new bullet train network blew my mind. Their train stations are as big as airports.
France’s TGV can go 575km/h but they limit to 320. Trains in China and Japan operate in the 250-350 range. Wtf is the difference between bullet train and European trains that are just as fast? They go the same speed. Source: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/09/these-are-the-world-s-fastest-trains/
The US is big and not densely populated. But northeast/East coast (Boston-NYC-DC-Charlotte) and west coast (Vancouver-Seattle-SF-LA-Las Vegas) routes would be very popular.
Can we also have one in Chicago between ORD and downtown?
@Manager 1 - who pays for the car infrastructure? You do, with your taxes. Yes, a train system will likely not be as profitable as an airline company (if you can even call them that) but if we want to do something concrete to avoid the collapse of our road-based transportation infrastructure due to traffic and gas consumption, trains are the most pragmatic and comfortable way to go. If I think about how long a flight SF to LA takes me end-to-end, trains can be competitive.
Hyperloop
There’s serious questions whether half of Europe’s fast trains make any economic sense. Outside the NE corridor, no way high speed makes sense I. The US. Even LA to SF would be a massive boondoggle that would never be able to justify the capital cost.
How profitable is the interstate highway system?
High-speed rail actually makes a lot of sense in many regions of this country, outside the NE corridor and West Coast. High-speed rail especially makes sense in the midwest anchored around Chicago, with linkes running to Des Moines, Milwaukee and MSP, and in the SouthEast, with lines running btwn Memphis, ATL and Orlando. This will help with regional economic integration, and if it is supported by enough housing development, will alleviate rising housing costs. As more econ opportunities become concentrated in cities but workers are forced to live farther away high-speed rail makes a lot of sense. It also helps economic opportunity flow back and fourth btwn cities that might not see as much of it. The Hyperloop is additive to High-Speed Rail, not a replacement.
You know France is the size of Texas and Germany is only half as large?
This is a massive fail at basic geography / population density
I don’t think there are bullet trains in Europe. It’s just high speed rail - which the US, “the world’s leader”, completely lacks
China is small?
Trains along east and west coast corridors make a lot of sense: environmentally concious compared to flights, more convenient for citizens and probably would take part of the interstate traffic load. Trains somehow did not fit the capitalist agenda back in the day and the tradition continues. With all the discussions on infrastructure that will now go into self driving car craze, i have a feeling upgrading infrasture and trains in the US will be treated like insisting on a technology of the past century.
Having traveled SFO - SEA by train for 24 hours and paying as much as a direct 2hr flight, I could not agree more. And let's not talk about the insane amount of traffic between LA and the Bay Area.
The issue is that the political push and investment would be huge, and current administration seems to put (some of) it in a wall... :(
Compared to Amtrak, European super-fast trains are bullet trains. 150-200 miles/hr is good enough I would say, compared to what is there today.
I have a feeling @A2 took a regular commuter like train in Europe and thought that they are fast trains. As a matter of fact, they are better than the best Amtrak Service. So he is not wrong. LoL
Almost no routes would be profitable. This isnt some sort of magic idea you thought of. The economics dont work here for several reasons
I'm just waiting on my self driving pod-mobile. Also, they are trying to build a high speed rail along California's coast to connect the bay to la. It just will take another 10+ years...
@ZS1 You’re an idiot
Or we could switch to electric cars, and make them self driving....which would unlock vastly more efficient use of the infrastructure we already have/have paid for.