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I wonder what this means for return to office plans.

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This is utter nonsense. If the vaccines don’t work then there are really no other options, and eventually society will have to return to some level of normal function. If they do work then why are wearing masks?

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Lol yes, it is definitely the virus known as “coercive govt restrictions” that is sending so many people to hospitals around the country. You all are so insanely ideological…like the saying: “to the man with a hammer, everything is a nail”. Also, D3 of course they’ve been wrong. “They’ve been wrong before that one time so they are wrong now” isn’t really an argument. In your opinion, have they ever been right? It’s the same type of question that leads to really nowhere. And even more extremely absurd is equating this to the Nazis somehow lmao talk about Godwin’s law

We need to shift to a model that understands the virus is here for a long period of time. If that means a higher death rate. Then so be it. Indefinite masking, forced vaccination, and social distancing are not worth the trade off. Do what ever offensive measures are required to manage the hospitalizations.

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F*** that vax

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I don’t believe a word that comes out of that man’s mouth.

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He may have changed his statements a few times but he is not holding mass rallies for reelection. Coronavirus is once in a century kind of event. Previous models don't always work exactly. You change guidance as you get new info. We are much more globally connected than we were in 1920nSpanish flu. Variants develop faster and spread faster. He probably cares about people not dying than any politician does.

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This is why repealing the mask mandates was a mistake

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“Those of us who sacrificed” 🤔 wearing a mask is not WWII, OP.

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Not everyone will get the reference but …

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Wow it’s true: The right really can’t meme, holy shit.

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I'm kind of hoping it means we never go back to the office. Computer based jobs can be done from anywhere and I want to relocate to Norway

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I don't trust everyone when they claim they're vaccinated anyway. Bring the masks back until we have more information on the delta variant, it's not that hard.

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Bring them back. Vaccinated, unvaccinated… when mandates for masks were in place cases dropped.

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Masks are theatre, full stop. If the people who refuse to wear masks and get vax’d aren’t getting tested, which portion of the population is testing positive then?

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Just one mask?

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Just one vaccine?

I’m hoping the masks come back tbh.

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Partners in Charlotte said they are keeping an eye on things. I don’t think we are going back in October

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Vaccines only work if 70%+ of the population is fully inoculated. Your probability of dying is reduced but you could still be infectious and pass it to those who are not vaccinated. If you have children less than 12, they are at a high risk from vaccinated and non vaccinated. That is why it is important to wear mask when vaccinated. It is called communicable / infectious disease for a reason. And then there are breakthroughs.

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This is not true and the kind of messaging that turns people away from getting vaccinated (“The vaccine doesn’t work so why bother?”). Vaccines are nearly 100% effective at preventing severe disease and death, and are also largely effective at preventing initial infection. If a breakthrough occurs (because a vaccine is not a force field), it will likely be mild or asymptomatic with a lower viral load/risk of transmission. That was the goal of vaccines: not eradication, but management and control of the disease. The 70%-85% threshold is required for herd immunity, meaning that those who can’t be vaccinated are protected from the disease by a “wall” of those who have been vaccinated or previously infected. Unfortunately, the anti-vaxxers continue to put those with high-risk medical conditions at risk by not being vaccinated. Children under 12 (with no high-risk conditions) were never at a major risk of serious illness from Covid, which is why the studies are taking longer. They can still catch and transmit, so it’s important for adults in the community to be vaccinated as well as masking in schools to protect vulnerable children (I.e. someone going through leukemia treatment) and ensure they can get an in-person education. But most children, infection is similar to a “breakthrough” in a vaccinated adult - mild or no symptoms at all. Still, parents should vaccinate their <12 kids ASAP upon approval to help us reach herd immunity and protect the most vulnerable. But to say kids are dying en masse is just incorrect. Thankfully, we already have vaccines for the most deadly childhood diseases. To say the vaccine doesn’t work pre-herd immunity is anti-science. If you’re vaccinated and not immunocompromised you have a better chance of dying from being hit by lighting than dying of Covid.

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Good luck getting people vaccinated. Typical flip flop Fauci 🐑

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Science isn't running for office. When the data changes, the recommendations will sometimes 'flip flop.'

How does Fauci still hold this credibility after those emails were leaked?

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Lmaooo that was good

It comes down to pressures and profits. We'll see who succumbs to what at some point.

Dr. Fauci is not the head of the CDC. We should be listening to the CDC.

I bet the “Permanent WFH” crowd is absolutely giddy at about this

Absolutely amped

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