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Welcome to in-house. Grass isn’t always greener. I’m in house and love it. Have to find the right fit.
Certainly not fully able to comment on this since I've only been in house for 3-4 years only at legal counsel levels, but I have worked at 3 companies (two massive, one small, one of those just for a 6 month secondment), and from what I can tell that's pretty much standard once you hit a certain level of seniority. Politics, budgeting, compliance issues. Each company treats their legal department with differing levels of importance and respect, and for some, the GC may not have a direct line to senior management, which creates issues in trying to bring about actual change.
Currently on a secondment to a large company and I can’t agree more about the bureaucracy and the politics.
Not everywhere will have the same level of dysfunction, but I think in general as companies get larger and older, these things tend to happen. Smaller companies are almost certainly more nimble in terms of tackling issues quickly, but at the same time because of resource constraints there are plenty of issues that won’t get tackled at all (whether because they are low priority or simply because no one recognizes there is a problem).
I agree that it is BigCorp life. Everything is done in the pursuit of profits, sound processes and legal input be damned. As you say, it is entirely too reactive.
Been at an F100 for 5+ years now, and the control (and frankly, the money) given to the business people is astonishing. Every process has an exception, every business unit thinks they're the only one, and they'll ignore you at the drop of a hat. It's really making a law-adjacent business role look attractive, since BigLaw has its own woes.
Potentially. My company has plenty of lawyers who don't do law, but they service legal clients or hock legal products. But there are also roles where you give non-advice legal input. I know someone who works for a tech company that has a product analyzing contracts, and this ex-lawyer works with the IT folks to give it specific terms and phrases to look for.
I am a lawyer because I honestly enjoy the law and its intricacies, but I work for money, so I could have way more quality of life and make more cash by not being a lawyer. I just don't need to be anxious all the time as the business folks print money.
I work at a smaller but still fair sized publicly traded company (say F700) and the bureaucracy is almost shocking.
I’m a transactional lawyer who handles mostly large and sophisticated deals.
Probably the most shocking thing to me is how long it takes for people to even get back to me on things. Not uncommon for it to take people days or sometimes more than a week to reply to an email (and even that often requires follow up), which of course means that getting substantive responses on deal gating issues in a reasonable timeframe is nearly impossible. Often that includes some of the other 35-40 lawyers in the legal department.
I’d suggest maybe checking with the worst offenders to start and ask them if they don’t have the bandwidth for the project or if there’s a better time you can send your emails to facilitate quicker responses. But if you don’t have any other reason to believe they just don’t care, I beg you to not assume they aren’t working their butts off and doing the best they can!
I think it’s a corporate culture/mindset thing. The right people have to be picking priorities and allocating resources, regardless of company size.
From my perspective, it all starts at the top. Until you’ve advanced high enough to have authority/responsibility to implement proactive processes and procedures, you’re probably stuck in the reactive/whack-a-mole world.
My advice: find the attorneys higher up than you who also want to be proactive and process-driven, and do whatever you can to work with them. They have vision and are more likely to advance than their reactive peers, and when that happens, they’ll want you on their team.
Great advice
Are you me? Like Attorney 3, I’m at a smaller publicly traded company. The politicking is stunning, and it’s difficult for me personally as I’m a natural problem solver, not a natural game player. I don’t think company size is necessarily the deciding factor here.
You can’t have capitalism without politics and poor allocation of resources. Collect the money and enjoy the ride, or go to a non profit which will inevitably have the same issues, but at least you can try and change the world…try
Why the capitalist bashing I see here? Sure, it ain't perfect but it's not like Communist countries don't have political infighting and poor allocation of resources, too...lol
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I’m at a small growing public company… we operate “lean” which leads to a lot of the same day to day challenges. At least as far as resources go. My current company is not very political.
Before I went to law school I worked at a very large corporation in a non legal capacity. One of the Fortune 50. Tremendous amount of politics and favoritism. God forgive me but I honestly found law firm life a little refreshing, at least from the standpoint that at an elite law firm, you could be really charming but if you couldn’t hack it with the documents the work would just bury you and you would wash out. In house at a fund now where everyone is obsessed with making money and their returns but at least I know exactly what people care about and how to find the way to their hearts. I can’t say I’d never work at a big corporation again but would have reservations.
Small co in-house here and still lots of politics and bureaucracy. I’d say even more than the fortune 600? Co I was at previously. Smaller fishbowl = rampant cannibalism
Haha. I felt your post. I too am at a Fortune 50 and agree with the issues you raised.
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Some companies have more adversarial internal politics than others, but yes I think that internal politics is always a part of the in-house work environment even at smaller companies. Learning to navigate this world can help your in-house career trajectory in the long term. FWIW I also think that there are internal politics in the law firm environment as well; it’s just different issues.