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Are the contractors are from a 3rd party? That comes out of a different budget line abs the agency can pay them whatever they like. If they’re contractors hired directly by the gov, they tend to have higher pay bc there are no benefits, 401k, etc.
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This is the same where I am. The higher pay is to account for lack of benefits, pension, etc. You are getting the better end of the deal, IMO.
The contractors are now salaried with benefits making the same they were making as contractors
I always think the State/govt justifies their lower pay bc they have (usually) amazing benefits. But it really pins people in the corner when they want to leave bc contractors are paid significantly higher to account for benefits. If you use your benefits frequently, with a family plan for instance, the take home is probably even. Usually contractors have benefits from a spouse or pay separately for them to have more take home pay.
Yea I agrea with this. Contractors usually don't have benefits so they get paid more. That is how its been at every place I have worked out.
How much more does the contractor make?
About 30k more
Sorry I don’t think I was too clear- they were contracted as recruiters making 90k. They hired them full time now with benefits and changed their roles to Acquisition specialists to still have them make 90k doing the same job as me.
If they did convert them at the same pay, I’m guessing Whomever did it didn’t look at what perm employees in the dept were making to know it was significantly more than what the perm team was already making. It’s worth a discussion at least; however, I had a manager who just used that as a lazy way to get rid of the seasoned employees, bc the higher paid ones were people that were hired during his tenure.
If the contractors were brought on by a recruiting or staffing agency, the agency gets a cut of their pay. So it might look like they’re making more per hour, but agencies take a big piece of that usually.
Ooof that’s a tough one then. You don’t want to negotiate a higher salary with your boss by saying you know they make more…but what you can say is you’ve done market research and understand most companies are paying xyz for your experience and skill set and you’d like to be raised to be more in line with what the market shows for that job title
Is it just me or does it seem like your government agency is committing technicalities? Can people in government negotiate salaries? I'm from the private sector and have always thought it's a fixed rate when you're in government.
How many years were you with the company? Might be best to bring up promotion for years of service in lieu of having information regarding the contractors' salary gap with yours.
I see. Quite challenging. Are the contracted workers working for a term or just as long as permanent employees? Or is there any condition that offsets the salary gap or are they just getting more benefits than the permanent workers through and through?