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If KPMG claims sharing rooms during training for staff is for helping them socialise, I wonder why the same rule doesn't apply to Managers and above? The firm's ideology is messed up at several levels

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Hey OP. It's because managers regularly have to go back and get on calls and work late in to the night. While I definitely don't miss sharing rooms anymore, three of my best friends at the firm are people I roomed with at training and it's definitely done to help associates and seniors meet more people. If you're that antisocial that you can't stand it you can request your own room.

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@OP - there is no policy. They do it depending on the budget for those trainings. Every training budget is different....
When our team assist in planning advisory trainings, we ask folks if you are interested in sharing rooms. If not please proceed with booking. I don't care about sharing rooms long as I get all the fun amenities, bonuses, and raises yearly. It doesn't bother me....some of y'all are spoiled brats. You want your cake, ice cream, a shot of fireball, and utensils. 😒😒😒

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Well if they just said it was to pad their own billfold, that'd be rude

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Nothing like graduating college and stepping into the working world like sharing a room with a stranger.

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We had two week training when I first started. If I had to share a room with a random person for two weeks, I probably would've jumped off the balcony.

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My question is why are there different standards? Why not just openly admit that "staff are less valuable employees, they are not entitled to the same basic comfort a manager is entitled to during travel and most importantly we are a cheap firm"

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@K7 - as a senior I take late night calls too and have similar needs to work late at night. It's not like only managers are bearing the entire burden of the firm. Now the problem is you are automatically interpreting someone's need for privacy as anti-social. And the need for privacy does not change whether you are a manager or not. It is a basic human need.

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It will change soon. Agreed it's tacky as fuck, but I don't find the firm cheap in any other aspect. As much as I hate it, i do think it's a calculated move and not just to save money.

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I get why they do it for staff. You spend almost no time in your room and most associates/seniors are under 30. The amount they save (~$500/person) is likely put back into enhancing other elements of the experience/new facilities. Will be worth it in the long run.

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Ya! I hate sharing rooms. No thanks, no matter my level.

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OP why does it matter it's not like you're bringing anyone back anyway

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Pwc does that too.

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Also nobody is forcing you to go to these trainings. Most firms hire extroverts that can step outside of their comfort zone regularly. If you have that much of an issue with sharing a room, you may want to reconsider if consulting is for you.

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Who aside from KPMG requires rooms to be shared? Deloitte doesn't...

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PwC forces Associates to share rooms at firm trainings - they use it as a way to save $ and limit the amount of stupid shit that inevitably happens with fresh undergrads

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It's super fucking cheap. Doing an external training this year and get my own room 👌🏻

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Calling privacy a "basic human need" is a bit of a stretch

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@K7, it's asinine. For the 10 days I was at new hire training, I deserve a similar style of living as what I have at home. Your argument is invalid

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I think the reactions to this post are pretty interesting. I started at K as a senior after business school but was already in my early 30s after about 9 years of work experience in industry. I hadn't shared a room since college other than with my wife, of course.

I found the required room sharing quite bothersome and didn't really like having a roomie at every firm event. I sucked it up but I didn't like it. Like all bothersome things, it passed. It wasn't about needing to grow up or being spoiled. It was probably more about being a 30 something year old professional and being treated like a college kid to save money.

I'm not sure what EYs policy is but now it's my money being spent on paying for rooms at firm events. Still, I wouldn't want to do that to those coming behind me just to save a buck or two. I'd rather have those folks happy, productive and loyal and out there serving clients thinking about how well they're treated by their firm.

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K2 go read a book

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How are they pairing people up? I'm surprised there aren't more triggered 🐠 from having their gender identities assumed. People frequently end up with roomies at DU, but it's 👉👌

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@K1- if age is a major factor then it is a case of discrimination. Also there may be staff who are older and not comfortable sharing. I know the experience is not as bad as it sounds but my concern is the double standards set by the management. You somehow cannot believe or be inspired in leadership that does not lead by example.

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