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You’re a few steps too far ahead. In their view, the murder of 14 children is an acceptable consequence, not a defect, and the system is working exactly as designed.
We can’t talk about solutions where we don’t agree on a problem.
P2, what are Republicans solution to this problem?
It’s amazing to me that folks are fixated on whether one should be able to buy a gun but not on the psycho who killed children. Do you believe gun laws would have stopped him? Did he say, “I really want to kill kids, but darn, I would have to get a gun illegally”. The solution is tougher enforcement of criminal penalties across the board. The solution is required service of some type at 18. The solution is utilizing retired military and police at all schools.
But we’re the only country with a mass shooting problem… 🤔
Chief
Democrat. Vet. Used to sell firearms. All you gun nuts come at me. I know all your arguments.
Regulate them. Treat them like vehicles. Issues licenses based on the class of firearms. Take a test, get a background check, register you firearm, and make insurance mandatory.
Remember when the government came for your car? No, they didn’t did they?
We have a right to “bear arms” but no where in the constitution does it say you have a right to an AK-47 or any other type of assault rifle, bazooka, nuclear bomb, etc. I think we can pass sensible gun laws that don’t impede upon our individual freedoms.
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Republican here. Not a fan of guns. Go ahead and ban them. I don’t think it will make a difference.
Chief
P3, evidence and logic are useless against willful pigheadedness.
You’re right, and they don’t care because it’s the only way they “win”.
Pro
If you’re a Democrat on here, stop pretending you care about life when you support no limits on abortion.
Stop arguing about the rare cases as justification for your stance and start taking solutions that prove you actually respect life as a basic right and value.
I also want to be clear - Democrats support Roe V Wade; not unlimited abortion.
In fact states that allow for late-term abortions with no state-imposed thresholds are Alaska, Colorado, District of Columbia, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, and Vermont. A mixed bag politically.
Why not let the market control things? Make “gun insurance” mandatory for all gun/ammo sales. Let insurance companies do their thing and assess risk of each individual and have insurance companies be liable for all damages afterwards.
Being willing to throw 💩 ar a wall and see what sticks isn’t being innovative and novel, nor should it be held up as virtue. Especially when that 💩 involves infringement of personal liberty.
As opposed to Dems/leftists who have amazing solutions to all our problems right - inflation, crime, societal divisions, unaffordable food and gas prices. How come we all lost the memo...hahaha...the sooner everyone gets out of their bubbles and sees the political swamp for what it is the better. Get enlightened folks...none of these 2 parties are any better.
Support big tech in establishing remote wellness rooms with Community Lead virtual session followed up by De-escalation session as needed. This sets up more jobs for responsible, peace-promoting citizens.
Give NRA funding for one-way drop off monitored mailboxes. Easy to point the finger and say the NRA is the problem but we need a solution. Incentivize remediation.
Support Grocery stores vouchers for guns program.
Lottery system on the grocery voucher tickets, one in 100 gets a free automobile repair course or similar practical training.
As opposed to Dems/leftists who have amazing solutions to all our problems right - inflation, crime, societal divisions, unaffordable food and gas prices. How come we all lost the memo...hahaha...the sooner everyone gets out of their bubbles and sees the political swamp for what it is the better. Get enlightened folks...none of these 2 parties are any better.
Partner with libraries to set up a wellness resource room.
Concept:
Any individual in distress can walk-in to a virtual resource room and get connected to a community lead through a rapid dialer that is random (safety feature for the counselor).
1.) 30min video conference/chat
Counselor can either
a. Direct individual to a book relevant to their crisis (trauma management, divorce, grief)
b. Cue a 5min calming song (theme of love or positive words)
c. Cue a happy video (cartoons, nature)
2.) Escalate to a second level video with a triage counselor trained in de-escalation (former cop, military)
a. If individual confirms access to or ownership of weapons give directions to a one-way mailbox to drop off the weapon
b. Drop-off box spits out gas or grocery voucher
Here’s another one - if a shooter is 25 or younger (eg buffalo) - both parents are also criminally liable to the actions of their son. Is it fair to the parents? Nope, but they raised the kid. And it’s even less fair to all the families of those who have been murdered. So who cares about fairness. Your kids shoot up a school or supermarket? You go to jail for life.
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