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If you book a period end accrual (D exp, C Accrued), when you reverse the entry the next day. Wouldnt you be booking the expense in the period you got the invoice, not the period the expense occurred?

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There is a difference between auditing and accounting. Auditors get confused at times with reversing and actual entries. However the best process is 100% accrual. 100% reverse. 100% actual

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The other reason is in large companies the accrual person is not the invoice processing person. So the only way to keep it accurate is to do 100% entries at each step

no, because if you pay the accrued exp in a subsequent period the debit offset the credit so ends up at 0....you just acrrue/reverse/accrue/reverse/accrue/reverse etc every month until you actually pay the expense, which will credit cash debit exp..... at the end of the day it looks like this, 12/31/18 record accrual for 100 misc exp debit exp 100 credit liability 100 1/1/19 reverse debit liability 100 credit expense 100 1/17/19 actually pay the expense debit exp 100 credit cash 100 so in january 2019 you have both a debit and a credit of 100 expense which net 0 while the expe se of 100 stays in 2018

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While you do reverse the expense in the subsequent period through the reversal it is 100% offset by booking the expense a second time on the AP or if it continues to be an accrual you rebook the accrual resulting in zero expense in the subsequent period

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Which makes sense but wouldn't that second debit to expense mean the expense is in the period that you paid for it instead of the prior period when the service/expense occurred (reason you booked an accrual in the first place) Never mind I just thought about it. The credited expense from Jan 1 for example will offset the debit when you eventually apply it to AP, which will zero it out and leave the original prior period expense for matching principal purpose.

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Manager 1 got it. I was getting a little worried there with those first two commenters lol

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Looks like someone else’s ego got stoked when called out wrong

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You don’t reverse the expense.

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The other side of the reversal doesn’t credit expense, it would theoretically hit cash (when you actually paid the expense)

What?? Lol

I’m so glad we’re building a better working world. And this nonsense benefits humanity how?.

So you don’t overstate expenses, leading the average financial statement user to make ill informed decisions with his/her kids college funds.

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God I hate accounting

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