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I bill for the entire time - from when I get into the car to when I get out of the car at my destination (including flight in between). I think that’s the norm unless there are certain client rules, and even then the partner will cut that on the back end but it should count towards your billables (at least in big law).
And to add I have never received pushback or questions. Instead, I mentioned not billing for being stuck in massive traffic coming back from JFK once after a client meeting and a partner gave me shit for not billing the entire 2 hour ride back to the city.
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Why is this 12 hours NY to SF? Should be more like 9-10 max.
You need to check w/ the partner responsible for billing.
Have seen associates get burned by this because a client has restrictions around travel that they’ve distributed to their outside counsel. Then in house counsel get an invoice from a partner who didn’t review the invoice closely enough and they see a line item for “[Associate name], Travel to Chicago, 10.5 hours, $9,500” and go ballistic.
Partner will then blame you for not asking about the billing guidelines .
Right check with partner. If they have to write it off at least it’s time that was worked.
My understanding is that you bill it and try to work on the matter during the travel time. Let the partner cut the hours if they want to
Also, if you work on another matter (matter B) during the travel time for matter A, subtract that from the travel time you’re billing for matter A and just bill that time to matter B
Surprised by these responses. In my experience, you only bill for the work done. If you didn’t work during travel, you got no billables. Clients don’t want to pay $800/hour for you to simply sit in an Uber. But I guess I have been working at the wrong firms.
If you can’t do something else because you’re doing something for a client, that’s billable time or else you’re working for free.
Clients with leverage often refuse to pay for travel (except for time actively working on the matter). However, my firm allows us to get “billable equivalent” time even if the client won’t pay.
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Seething with envy that some of you get to bill for travel time.
Not sure what the policy is at my firm, but sadly I work in funds in NYC so the only “traveling” I’m doing is taking cabs downtown or up to CT.
Non-working travel is billable (may be written off or discounted for the bill but you should get credit). Just make sure to subtract/bill separately any time you spent doing actual work while traveling (i.e. don’t double bill).
It’s always a good decision to check with the partner on this.
Generally if I have to travel for a billable matter I bill the travel time minus work I am doing on other matters.
That said, it is increasingly rare that as a transactional lawyer I have to travel for anything other than marketing.
Lot of clients may not pay to bill travel at full rate some pay half or negotiate the rate . But 12 is not reasonable.
I would def bill for the travel time. I haven't heard of anyone doing anything differently. It seems like people above are saying they don't but its part of the clients expenses.