If you’re working remotely, is it invasive for your boss to ask for your current whereabouts? I was randomly asked what city I was in without context. Btw I’m still in my home state just a different city

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I don’t see a problem with that. If they see the connection originating from a different source it’s perfectly reasonable for them to assume there could be a security problem.

Simply asking you directly is the fastest way to tell whether or not there’s a problem.

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Logging in from an irregular IP is a frequently-used alert trigger, but it’s not a particularly reliable one for this exact reason.

Some free professional advice for everyone reading this: set your triggers to flag IPs originating in suspicious areas or from known malicious ranges (various Commercial VPNs) instead of IPs just originating not where they usually are.

You can also interrogate the MAC address to see if the actual machine logging on is the same as is typically used (and better still, only allow pre-vetted machines onto the network… this has some implications for BYOD, but you can hire me to help you work through those).

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I’ve been 100% remote for 16 years. I have had working vacations all over the US and in other countries. I fly during non-business hours and work my normal time zone hours. I VPN in like always and use my hotspot for wifi. I always have a virtual background & Noise Cancelling on even in my home office. Even if I’m in a coffee shop, no one in video meetings can hear any background noise. There’s no disruption in work production.

In our company culture, that question would be invasive and inappropriate. I would assume no ill intent and probably respond with “why do you ask?”

Manage the work and not the person.

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Yes it’s appropriate, there are tax implications. If you are working in NYC the firm needs to deduct city tax from your paycheck vs if you are in say a suburb of Albany. You should have to indicate this when you submit your time card, which is hopefully where they got the info versus spending the time to see where your internet connection is coming from.

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Yes let’s report our “visit” so that more taxes can be deduced

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It’s not invasive to simply ask. What would be invasive would be using metadata or some other information to find out what city you’re in, instead of asking you directly. It could be purely out of interest, which is a normal thing to ask literally anyone on a team that is located in the same state as each other. It doesn’t mean they’re going to try and meet you in person, it’s just basic conversation….

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My literal exact sentiments. Not a big deal

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I think it depends on the context. For example, if let’s say you’re visiting family for a week and are working from a family member’s network during your regular schedule , I really don’t think it’s their business to know that you are not at your home office, only that you’re getting your work done. I highly doubt that they can see the different IP address that you logged into from the VPN.

But if you have to be on camera during a Teams/Zoom/WebEx meeting where you don’t have much privacy, honesty doesn’t hurt. Although it’s always a good idea to use your background filters if possible to avoid that.

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How is it like UHG?

Yes that’s invasive, I’d ask for a reason why before disclosing.

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Lol so long as you’re not lying to HR it shouldn’t be a problem (?) - for example: saying I live in Seattle, WA to get the HCOL pay while living in Kelso 😂

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What everyone else doesn’t do this?

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If its a big team, maybe they forgot your time zone and was trying to remember?

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What was the context of the ask? Did you just return from a trip and your boss was making small talk? It doesn’t sound like anything invasive based on the limited info.

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No the question was just randomly asked without context or prior conversation

Sometimes we talk about it, sometimes we don't. We have one team member who is driving around the country trying to find a new place to live. No one really cares in our organization. If it comes up, it's more out of genuine interest than anything.

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So I’m like really against monitoring location when WFH and that’s because of my experience with working with micromanaging and insecure managers that were still getting used to companies changing from being in the office everyday to WFH. If asked without context or prior conversation, that would annoy me big time. To me it would imply distrust and create friction with whoever is asking because it’s none of their business as long as the work gets done and I personally cannot work with someone who doesn’t have trust that I am working and getting my work done.

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Doesn’t hurt to ask your boss if there is a reason behind asking your whereabouts.

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Jesus all the barracks lawyers in this thread justifying an overbearing manager crossing a clear boundary have zero concept of the commercial value or ethical considerations of their personal data.

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Your timezone may make a significant difference to your ability to collaborate with others. As remote work has increased, so have problems with having people spread out across areas that don’t have much overlap in work hours.

It also could have been small talk. Is this really that invasive and inappropriate?

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One potential factor that can be at play (not necessarily in this situation) is if the company has a policy around working internationally. For example at many healthcare and banking tech companies they have a policy that prevents PII/PHI access by anyone not located in the US. This is due to contracts with this requirement and due to potential security risks.

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Lot of context missing. My first thought thought is that your boss is considering asking people to come into the office for a some “team bonding” but- may pull that idea if nobody is around. Second thought is that someone on your team moved cities to a different time zone and switched their working house without notice- now the boss is asking everyone as a formality so it doesn’t seem like they’re targeting 1 person.

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I’m in the same state, same time zone, just a different city. I wasn’t asked to be in the office either, that’s why I’m confused.

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I’m only asked when there is obviously car background noise. Beyond that, no one cares as long as I pick up the phone.

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Your present location is a datapoint covered under GDPR if you’re European, and various other regulations depending on your specific circumstances…

Not entirely sure if there’s one that protects you for flat out refusing to answer as an American… would have to look that up.

— Authority: CIPM

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My ex company asked this question from me and the next thing I know, they called everyone in office 5 days a week. They also mentioned what office would be closer for the employee to go into based on the responses they got. Lol

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It can be, but it depends on the context. One thing you want to make sure of, is relocating somewhere that your company doesn’t operate. For instance, I know someone who worked for a US based insurer, they were US based at the start, married and moved to Canada. They had to leave that job, because the company flat out couldn’t keep them employed in another country.

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