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I'm a first year and just received a raise, even though I haven't been at the firm for a year yet. It's a great amount, and I'm so thankful. The partners told me in person but I'm just wondering if I should ask them to put it in writing, just to confirm it and in case anything happens down the road? If I learned anything as an attorney, it's to always have everything in writing lol

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Why don’t you just drop them a gracious email thanking them for the raise to $X? That way, you’ve at least recorded your understanding of the conversation, and have a reference point for future. They may even reply to your note with something brief which would serve as an acknowledgment. Most partners will appreciate that you acknowledged the raise and wrote a thank-you note, in my experience. They won’t think twice of the fact that you included the $ value.

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Would not recommend this

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You should absolutely demand a written copy of your new comp. But a few very important things to note: (1) Send a written demand for the comp, via certified mail, to the managing partner (personal hand delivery is also sufficient); and (2) Make sure to threaten litigation if they don’t provide your comp in writing by x date (preferably something with a short fuse, like within 48 hours of receipt, to show them you’re serious). And that’s basically it.

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Demand should be return receipt requested.

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Just double check your next paycheck.

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This. If doesn’t appear, then you’ll have something to need advice about.

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So you can take them to court over it…?

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Only do this if you want to be the butt of every joke the partners make when discussing associates. Be grateful, confirm in your paycheck, and move on.

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This is precisely why I left biglaw. Not over raises, but because of emasculation. If you were a corporate employee in any other setting, asking that you receive notice of your new compensation in writing would be understood as the professional course of action. But God forbid an associate attorney does the same. It could ruin their career. Partners are sensitive and fragile weasels who get off on control/power, and keeping you in your place. I’d much rather make a little less money outside biglaw and keep my integrity than to walk on eggshells my entire career in exchange for higher comp.

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I’m with CEO here. I was just randomly given a mid year raise (all big law is doing it) and it didn’t even cross my mind to ask for it in writing. I think that’s probably a sign you’re at the wrong place. I trust the company I’m at and have complete faith that they are good for their word. If you’re so skeptical as to need everything in writing, maybe this firm isn’t the right fit.

50/50 you’ll get something in writing if you ask, but it may not be the raise. 😂

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I hope a lesson was learned from these comments.

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You’re great at this.

Do not do anything other than be grateful

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No don’t do it. Its common to be told orally at first.

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First year salaries to 250k???!

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🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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Honestly, the only time you’ll see your comp in writing is your offer letter, uniform pay raise email, W2, K-1, or when you need some type of confirmation for a lender. Otherwise, I think it’s pretty uniform nothing gets put in writing.

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This is true. Even equity partners don’t know what they’re getting until the executive committee decides it. My initial offer letter at the three firms I’ve been at (left big law in 2016) was the only salary mention I ever got. I think that’s probably true of anyone in big law. You’re not going to get anything in writing unless you’re bringing a huge book with you and even that is ephemeral if you don’t produce.

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You shouldn’t ask them to confirm in writing - you should counter offer for more money.

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Do not proceed.

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I had several raises over the years…I’ve never gotten anything in writing about them. I got the notice and it showed up on my check. If you really don’t trust the people you are working for that they are going to honor their statement that they are giving you a raise you might reconsider who you are working for. Just a thought. If you are just trying to be super cautious, I really wouldn’t worry about that unless they give you a reason.

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Devoid of sound judgment? Sounds scary!

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How much??

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No. Do not ask for it in writing. You won’t get any future raises in a signed letter either. It would be weird to ask for that in writing

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Are you saying I'm not a man of my word OP? 😑

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Agreed but double check. If they don’t walk the talk, then that’s your sign to get out because you wouldn’t want to stay at a firm like that. (Happened to me, and I’ve since left for bigger and better.)

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