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I'm about to quit my job (150k tc) and do a coding bootcamp for 9 months. Please tell me I'm not walking off a cliff. Mid thirties btw.

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Also - what’s your goal in coding? Do you wanna do app development? Do you wanna do software engineering? Do you wanna do analytics? Or do you wanna do product management?
Figure out what skill specifically you are interested in, what kind of tools you wanna work with, and then find the right learning platform from there. As someone in analytics, I’d say doing business analytics is the easier of them as most of it is really using SQL, maybe some Python or R, and a lot of stakeholder management. You already make 150k, i hope you’re not getting bamboozled by those who report an overinflated version of what they make in tech (hint: it’s not common), esp as most of it is really in stock options if you buy the stock. You’d prob make the same in these tech companies as what you do know if you take some basic courses in Sql, and then you can always shift over to a “coding” job if you want.

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This is correct. I’ve been an engineer for 15 years. I have the same total comp as OP. This whole idea of switching mid career just to make the same money on the other side?

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To add onto what everyone else is saying here. If you really want to do software engineering and get paid well for it you should know that coding interviews at the top companies require a strong computer background. Idk of many boot camps that do much more than prepare you to be a code monkey as opposed to a legitimate SWE. For companies like FAANG, Thoughtworks, etc., you would need to know asymptotic complexity with algorithms, architecture design, etc. They will sometimes be asked to even clone a repo and work on it and send it in. Most people who prepare for these interviews do leet coding on Topcoder. I haven’t heard of many boot camps that can help on those kind of things. For the boot camp stories where people have went to a FAANG I suspect they may have gone to Google’s consulting arm, but not the core teams. Like just about anybody who studies for an AWS cert can go work at AWS but it just depends on which part

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Coding is over glorified, boring, and continually shifting towards offshore resources.

Dropping your job to do a coding camp is something someone in menial or unskilled labor would do in their 30s (which would be a decent choice for them). But if you're making 150k, you aren't unskilled. Unless you are just oddly passionate about code (which you shouldn't be), you're definitely taking two steps back in your career

Source: me, a former software dev

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Agreed, it’s a door opener, not a career growth skill.

Don’t quit just do the boot camp on your free time

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Piling on a bit, Do the grind.

Evenings/weekends. Keep your income and invest the non work hours 100% in this plan of yours.

9 months of no salary at your rate essentially adds 112k to the cost of the bootcamp. I doubt the course sounds as good if you add that to the costs.

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OP, you are thinking in the right direction. I went for my full time one year MBA for the same reason. More money than what I was making and the ceiling has surely changed drastically.

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Have you thought of online part time masters? I have been interested in Georgia Tech OMSCS. Do look into it, they accept applications all year round and they have three semesters a year. Mind you a CS from Georgia tech is much more valuable than a coding boot camp.

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Does UPenn masters diploma cert say ‘Online’?

Harsh truth: Boot camps are viewed as 2nd class citizens.

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That may be the case, but with Deloitte on their resume and a little bit of experience they wouldn’t even need to put the boot camp on their resume. Could be another techie with decent coding experience willing to be hired at a reasonable rate to gain experience. After that, if they kill it.. they’ll be fine.

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What do you do right now ? I make 200K and no zero coding . I work in cyber security . There are multiple fields in cyber /IT and programming is just one of them

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Ey 1, my guess is that yaml isn't being considered coding here

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Read this and ask yourself again if you want to do it. I've pretty much structured my life around this article and it's served me well. https://www.kalzumeus.com/2011/10/28/dont-call-yourself-a-programmer/

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I just forwarded this to my software engineer son who is about to go back into the job market. Good advice.

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This is a mistake. Non SWE technical roles at big n still pay well and doesn’t require you going to a bootcamp.

I make $150k tc as a solutions architect at post ipo startup. Looking for next exit at big n or unicorn for 230-250k TC.

If you want money there’s other ways of doing it

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Accenture hires bootcamp grads into the lowest career level and don't care about your previous work experience

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Take loa and do t quit

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Leave of absence for few months

Don't quit. Do it part time. This is what I did. I was tired but it worked.

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Which program part time? Thanks!

If you can, do a coding bootcamp part time and get your current company to pay for it. You may as well as earn that income while you do the bootcamp.
There are also so many that happen on weekends if you feel comfortable giving up a whole Saturday (like an 8-6 kinda thing) every week for it. Had a coworker that did a part time bootcamp while working full time, only took a year max (it was def less), and also she got our company to pay for all tuition costs.

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Thanks for your thoughts. Lots to consider. Will think about this over the weekend.

Friend did exactly the same. Post coding school, he didn’t get expected opportunities. Had a tough time

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Don't do bootcamps full time! Most are scams.. Kind of. Go to udemy or coursera or whatever and get a feeling for what you want to do! Ui/ux, coding, frontend, backend etc..

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If you're serious about learning, go to grad school. Bootcamps only cover basics, and most often don't cover them well. You'll have significantly less in depth skills, and will thus be able to do less.

If you're serious about getting a product development job, take a standalone algorithms class at a university and start leetcoding. Bootcamps only cover basics, and most often don't cover them well. You'll have more limited job selection, most likely with teams you'll be able to do less with.

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In 2010 if you graduated with a CS degree from a top school it was automatically a six figure salary for you. But then the bootcamps came. By 2018 the market was saturated with developers. New developers stopped making anything close to six figures.

It’s now 2021, and now you want to do a bootcamp? That wave has passed. The hot thing in 2018 became data science and I think that’s still pretty in-demand, but not for long. DS might be a better path. Especially if you’re making $150k now. If you go CS it will take take you 5+ years to start making $150k again

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A couple things - to say it will take him 5 years to make 150K is probably false. To say in 2010 if you had a cs degree it was automatic 6 figures is definitely false. And it’s more nuanced than to say someone is “starting over”. But overall I think it will take him 2 years to get to 150 after his boot camp is over

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Most people here aren’t asking questions and giving a bad overall advice. I’m sorry but I have seen people go to boot camp and within 2 years double their income. 150 is decent, but not that much. If you grind then I expect you will be making that in 2 years

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A lot of it depends on how talented OP is. Nobody is asking this question too. If OP is talented, he could be making 500k in five years. I know people making that much as a SWE with degrees in accounting, economics, or biology. They are talented AF though. But the point is that all these people giving advice don’t seem to have any curiosity on how talented the OP might be. If his talent for programming turns out to be on par with his drive and passion, then 150K is peanuts.

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Why though

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