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I am in final stage to get offer from Microsoft India ( CSCP) as Data and Applied Scientist. HR asked me my expectations, I just wanted to know how much salary I can expect.
Here are my tech stack and experience
Education : M.S. Statistics
Experience : 8 years in Statistics , Data Science
Current CTC : 46 Lacs ( 42 fixed + 4 bonus + No stocks
I am not aware of Microsoft payband, need your help in salary negotiation. Microsoft
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I’d at least tell them they need to pay out the rest of the PiP period on top of severance since they didn’t honor their side and give you 30 days.
If you’re VP, they should definitely be giving you a month’s severance. If you were resigning, they would get pissy if you didnt give them a month’s notice.
Former HR. You can and should negotiate. Like someone said above, they should be paying you out the remainder of your performance improvement plan time plus the two weeks plus any unused vacation. You are at an executive level, so honestly I would ask for 4 to 6 weeks, which is more customary. I would also ask for them to extend your insurance an additional month and/or cover your COBRA premiums for a couple of months. None of these things are mandatory unless specifically stated in your employee handbook, but rather the right thing to do in the industry/market. Are you a member of a protected class? If so, you are in a better bargaining position given the current cultural climate. No company wants to be in the trades over this kind of stuff. I would also quantify any periods where you worked a lot of overtime, did something that earned the company additional revenue or PR, and/or went above and beyond the call of duty and compile those things into a list of compelling reasons why you deserve additional severance. Be firm but polite. Do it over email and follow up with a scheduled call to discuss. The worst they can do is say no and then who the hell cares. No need to worry about rejection from a company that let you go. F ‘em. Get yours.
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Do you have any accrued PTO that you can also ask to be paid out for? Check your employee handbook and pto
There’s always negotiation. Talk to a lawyer.
May be hard to negotiate given covid. I was laid off not placed on a plan but I was there under a year and it was hard to get more
Where’s the plan? With the performance goals or expected improvements? Where are the notes from the weekly—or were they bi-weekly—check-ins? That documented your progress or lack of performance against stated goals? Where are your notes on the feedback, from whom and when? You’re a VP, not a junior in their first job. Negotiate additional severance. Agencies can be sloppy in these matters.
If you’re in California, no.
Thanks everyone! Your answers have been incredibly helpful.
OMG, I'm reading CD1 response, who says he/she was former HR. All of that sounds great on paper. The bottom line is that if they didn't fire you because of 'insert protected class', you don't have a leg to stand on. Most states are hire/fire at will. They don't need a reason to fire you. You can try to negotiate, but mark my words—your agency will tell you to sign the paperwork within a specified time or lose your 2 weeks. I'm sorry that you're being let go. Clearly, it's because your boss doesn't like you, not because of your work. Take the money and move on. This kind of 30-day notice shit can really mess with your head.
Kinda curious what you did to get the PIP
Definitely a strange thing that seems to be happening a lot more these days from the sound of it. It seems like it’s a manager or agency’s way of getting rid of someone without getting the bad rep of doing too many layoffs.