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The hospitalizations and deaths are overwhelmingly people with significant health complications. Most were elderly.
The nexus of many have been nursing homes
50% of people who catch it experience no symptoms.
Healthy at risk Americans who need their jobs can't work.
Unemployment is associated with increase in mortality.
We're 6 weeks away from people saying; let the ar risk isolate themselves, quarantine at risk populations and put the country back to work.
Rising Star
Definitely agree!
Rising Star
For the billionth time, it’s a 1% death rate IF HOSPITALS DON’T GET OVERWHELMED. If they do, they have to choose who gets the few available ventillators and the death rate could skyrocket. If we open up, that will happen and the death rate will be much higher than 1%. Hence, “flattening the curve.”
And even if we magically had enough ventilators, which we don’t, most people get it. 1% of 300 million people is still 3 million people. That’s a lot.
Pro
BCG1 I am NYC
If it seems like it was all for nothing then that shows it worked. People protesting don’t understand basic principals like exponential growth
Chief
If you are alive and do not know anyone who got it or died from it, it is because of the actions that were taken.
I totally get what you're saying about less populous places because I would have thought the same thing, but I don't think that is practical actually. A lot of rural areas have large manufacturing facilities or warehouses where outbreaks occur very easily (example: Smithfield pork plant in South Dakota). Those types places don't really have "wide open" healthcare facilities either. It's more like there are maybe a few ICU beds for multiple counties. In the Dakotas there's like 1 doctor every couple of hundred miles. It's hard to imagine because I have always lived in a metro area with access to healthcare, but the reality of rural America is that healthcare is sparse.
Pro
We saw the situation get bad in one major US city. Just because social distancing worked there and things are stabilizing doesn’t mean that everyone else is “off the hook” for social distancing too. We have to reopen in an intelligent way, slowly, and closely monitor if it’s working in the next 2-4 weeks. And we need to be prepared to shut down again if the numbers go back up.
Oh and KPMG- you got any TP or pork chops, I’m down with being pals 😁
Pro
Its almost like OP lives under a rock.
Pro
Congrats on being able to Google search. My problem is that you’re saying 5 people as if that speaks for the entire world. Your sample is for a 2 week period in NYC.
Also let's not forget that some doctors are reporting non covid related deaths as covid deaths.
Source? Sounds like a conspiracy theory k1
It’s crazy when you say the death rate is less than 1% as if that excuses the impact of the virus. Like it seems less threatening. But then I think about the friends, and friends of friends, and family of friends, young and old, sick and healthy, who have died and I realize-wait.. this thing IS a big deal. So many people have died that shouldn’t have. Sad.
Pro
Or the people with lasting lung issues due to the damage caused by the virus. Or the people who had strokes or heart attacks. It’s not just deaths.
Perhaps it’s because people have already experienced loss due to COVID-19. My family was hit hard and it’s devastating that we can’t even properly say goodbye. I don’t wish this level of loss on anyone.
I'm so sorry for your loss. My family was also impacted and I don't think anyone in my family will be the same after going through this tragedy.
Let’s just open up and devastate. but please stop with these inane threads.
Rising Star
Plenty of those, but don’t consider that to be a social life. I’d consider zoom parties to be social distancing.
Hyperbolizing, maybe. I don’t think we have absolute knowledge regarding the mortality rates especially since we continue to see an increase in cases daily. Also, everybody has a different risk tolerance so I’d say, it’s not necessarily a bad thing to want to be on the safer side. I personally know of people who lost multiple family members who were not considered part of the vulnerable population and were relatively young and healthy. Although the majority of deaths are those immunocompromised, there were many reported deaths of younger and healthier individuals here in the US and even kids which was quite the contrary to what was reported when this virus emerged in other countries. Many can’t afford to risk it especially those who have immunocompromised individuals at home, like me. It doesn’t hurt to be sympathetic towards the concern of those individuals.
What we do know: 0.13% of NY state has already died from the virus in 2 months while under lockdown. So extrapolate that for a few more months and model it without lockdowns.