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Only time has happened to me it was for a 500M RFP. Sometimes even some stupid deck with client has been reviewed zillion of times.
If it's something worth these hours then fine, even if time consuming and boring.
I don’t think it is worth the time. I stand by providing quality deliverable to the client. But making changes and edits so that you can just put exact words that you want to see isn’t right.
500mn is worth a zillion edits though!
.. I create doc->Teammate reviews->I make changes as per their review->They review again and send to manager->manager sends his feedback->i make edits->teammate reviews again->sends to manager->(same cycle if he has comments)->sends to SM->feedback from SM, i make changes, teammate reviews then goes back to SM. After zillion times, the doc finally goes to client. I have never seen or experienced such an unnecessary process of doc review. And most of the review updates made by teammates is changing the sentence structure in a language that they can understand. There no grammar or sentence structure issue in the original document that i create. Sh*t-heads don’t understand that a sentence can be structured in N different ways still conveying the same message. There is no problem with the content though. But still I get the feedback that the quality is not up to the mark. Why are the teammates reviewing, coz they have worked on similar projects before and have been trained by the managers to create content as per their liking.
Op that sounds like a very annoying review process for sure! But if you’re continuing to get feedback that your work is below expectations (which I’m gathering from your post), multiple reviews isn’t actually unheard of. Peer reviews can be very helpful, and it’s something I often ask for when a teammate is struggling.
That is indeed a very annoying review process. Put 3 days to create the work which went through 5 days of review to reach just the SM for the for first feedback. Peer review is helpful when the review provides actual changes in terms of updates to content or fixing grave sentence/grammar issues. But here it is more about changing things left and right as you would like it to be (they need to showcase the manager that they did a detailed review and made a lot of changes). Also I am the new addition to the team that has been working together for a year, so my arguments/inputs/suggestions/push-back die down as I always hear that ‘this is the way we have done/written/documented in our past deliverables’.
So much for being agile. Can’t there be one review with everyone together on a call? Probably faster?
Makes sense A1, but that just wouldn’t work on a team of 20 with multiple workstreams, or when the SM and PMD are managing multiple workstreams. I’ve actually had clients where words really really mattered- they liked things phrased a certain way and I know the SC felt as though we were nitpicking him when we asked him to make small changes in wording but you better believe the clients noticed and cared. Once in a while we wouldn’t have time for a detailed review before going to the client and they’d always hone in on how something was worded.
Regardless, I think there’s something else going on here and that we aren’t getting the full story. I think OP should ask his Manager and SM what they are looking for and understand why corrections are happening.
Don’t know what you’re complaining, this is called “pls fix.” I have had 22 versions of the same deck. Partners and SM have strong point of view and we are converting their vision into a deck
Partner asks to do 100 edits, do it. Buck stops there. But as you mentioned, they have strong point of view and mostly make changes to the content and overall message delivery. Here, it is about changing every word in the document as the other person is thinking of. The content and message delivery is already there.
Y'all never did audit review cycles, huh?
Been there, done that. Know the process, and this ain’t one.
This sounds like most of my EY engagements with the FSO enterprise control testing group