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Not all the kids that go to Ivy deserve it. And some kids that went to beer schools are just as clever as those who went to Ivy.
Rising Star
Someone has chip on their shoulder
I’m an IVY league grad. I’m not smarter than most. I just worked a lot harder in high school. Honestly it’s only tough to get into Ivy leagues, but once you are in you can be as dumb as a rock and should be fine for life
This isn’t entirely true. I went to an Ivy as well, and know plenty who crashed and burned, and plenty who aren’t doing much of anything with their lives. That said, you do have a better shot at success.
Beer college people tend to be more down to earth. Would rather work with a top student from Michigan who doesn’t take themselves too seriously than a HYP grad who’s out of touch with reality
Rising Star
Visited Michigan, wouldn’t consider it a beer college.
Beer college consideration is directly proportional to football stadium volume. Big house might be full but decibel level was meh.
Great school and fantastic engineering
We have 10k spots to fill each year. What do you expect?
We do, but from my observation, the ones from "beer colleges" are often (not always) top students at those schools -- student government leadership, high GPAs (3.7+), STEM, or all of the above.
More surprised by the implication of your question - that your firm doesn't try to hire these students. That seems silly.
Welp, that describes me... Elected student senator four times, 3.74 GPA, and informatics minor from a beer college 🙃
I chose to go a “lower ranked” school because I got a full scholarship, although I was accepted at 3 Ivy leagues — am I a pleb?
AA2 - it was for graduate school
Chief
I find that non-Ivy League grads are more obsessed with school rankings than Ivy students.
Almost all my peers at BCG went to Ivy schools (like 80-90%) and no one cares/looks down on the few who didn’t.
Yet the state school people will randomly bring up how they get into Ivy colleges too, but chose a state school for scholarships. It’s weird and occurs totally unprompted.
ey5 just curious what type of grad school did you do? I am also considering grad school (went to a top public school) and i want to know if by going to an ivy grad school can help boost the overall “reputation” or not really bc it is grad school rather than undergrad?
In this thread - a lot of people justifying their life decisions as the optimal one.
lmao talk to the 100k+ I saved choosing a state school and still ending up here...definitely worked harder than you did but the money speaks for itself
Chief
Not in B4. But I did go to an Ivy League school and would like to dispute the premise that ivies are not beer colleges.
I spent half my undergrad years drunk and it wasn’t from champagne.
Chief
I believe it.
I was an above median drinker at my school. Doubt it would have been that way at an SEC place.
Beer college checking in here, Go Green!
Go white
I’ve worked with some absolute jackasses from Ivy League schools. Some rockstars too. Same for the “beer colleges”.
It’s almost like talented people come from all sorts of backgrounds.
I say this as someone who went to a fancy private school.
Bunch of Ivy League kids with chips on their shoulder in my start class got laid off last year. Most of the state schoolers survived. Coincidence? Don’t think so. The entitlement is real and Ivy League ≠ automatic high performer in the workforce.
Growing up my dad taught me “never say no to anyone or any opportunity” when it comes to starting a new job or trying to work your way up. A lot of entitled peers I’ve worked with lack that mentality.
Shouts to the land grant schools 🙌
UGA grad here. Beer colleges are tight
I went to a school ranked in the 400’s and got a 3.3 still getting paid the same no “dad’s friends”.. who gives af ab rankings, all we’re doing is building slides and excel models.
All u literally have to do is come in early, leave late, not be an idiot, up skill in ur free time, and keep 1v1’s on your schedule
Usually they're in different roles and different compensation. Check the % of entry level hires at S&/EYP from ivies vs the % of analysts in the tax business line.
I’m neither from a prestigious school nor company, but I aced the brutal amazon loop and they didn’t care either.
Rising Star
It’s not that brutal or bad
It’s a harder interview than Big4 consulting
(Coming from someone who went to a US news certified beer college outside of the top 75 schools)
Pro
No need to pay / buy your way into a network by going to some expensive private school. Went to the cheapest school in the area and hopped straight into B4 consulting out of college. Sure it took some extra work making my own network but it saved me tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars