Is a secondment a way of being pushed out? Got offered a secondment with a big client but now I’m worried I’m being pushed out because I’ve been slow lately. Third year corporate V20.

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Not usually since the firm wouldn't risk the client relationship if they didn't think you were capable and were doing a good job. If you're more senior it could be a soft push.

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Emphatically, no. You’re providing much more direct support. The firm wouldn’t do this unless they were confident of your abilities and wanted to use you as a way to grow the client relations

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You’re right that they are probably seconding you because you are slow.

However, it’s not to push you out necessarily, more likely they are using the secondment to keep you productive / professionally developing, likely because they do view you favorably.

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Agree with this. Secondments and the relationships you create can be extremely valuable to your long term prospects. Do it and make the most of it.

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I’ve always heard of secondments only being gifted to star associates and never the other way around. It’s usually an amazing opportunity to get in-house experience and work for less hours while still being paid big law $$.

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Firms will never give a secondment to someone they don’t think will represent the firm admirably. If they are giving you one, you absolutely are not being pushed out. They value the client, and they see you as competent enough to trust you with a part of the relationship.

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Did you never speak to them about wanting to do secondment and was suddenly offered one out of the blue? I’m only asking because i thought the firm only sends you to secondments if you want to do it. Sorry in advance for my ignorance

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It's not really a way to push you out, but it also is not necessarily a sign that the firm is committed, in the long term, to you. It is, however, a very good way to get good insight into a business (as well as that industry and business in general) that it would be very hard to get while being an outside counsel. So if you think you might want to go in house someday, it would be a good opportunity for you.

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You’re fine. Enjoy the secondment.

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I think there are two points:

Given your situation, being relatively junior, I agree with others that they are probably not pushing you out and if anything this offer is a good sign that they like you.

I have seen secondements used to lightly push out well liked associates, but those are usually more senior associates who are at the partner inflection point who the firm knows they won't make partner for some reason, but they want to help the associate find a good place and build client relations. That doesn't seem like the situation here just based on your seniority.

Usually it's for people they like and want to stick around or who they think are going to leave and want them to land in a place where they can steer more business to the firm. Neither are bad IMO.

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