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Smaller shops have less soul crushing bureaucracy and aren’t beholding to the BDHC’s.
Kind of. If you get a smaller shop that really gets it and doesn’t get bogged down into trying to be bigger, then sure. But far too often they try to become bigger and then you get the worse of both—all the process and bureaucracy of a big shop and none of the resources to execute anything.
I’m in Florida and when I moved from Atlanta I was nervous it was going to be boring... but I’ve been pleasantly surprised. It’s chill but still challenging. The biggest difference is less competition and more job security. In Atlanta there were 5 people willing to take my job for less money, here it’s just not like that. Some places are downright cushy but for me it’s more like you don’t have to constantly beg for extra projects and work 80 hours a week just to get noticed and move up. We may have openings so pm me if interested.
AD1 - would it be ok if I PM you?
Not sure about creative but I’ve worked at handful of small and large agencies and all of the small agencies in smaller markets have been better with work life balance and more flexible overall.
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The Northeast is more soul-crushing than the rest of the country.
I’m not sure it’s a matter of market size or chaos vs order. You can have bad clients, bosses and agency culture literally anywhere. Small agencies will often have you wearing multiple hats and live and die based on new biz. Big ones are only just now adapting to a more gig-based economy with retainers more and more becoming a thing of the past.
You can see how there’s already a good bit of chaos built in no matter where you end up.
The key is in your boss and hopefully a roster of savvy clients who are capable of making smart decisions — and who trust their agency to present smart options given a sane amount of time. And that’s a crapshoot no matter where you live.
Good luck!
Regarding hours, the NYC ad culture is worse than other markets. But it’s more the business than the city. The irony is, if the place you work is slower and more chill, that often means there will be fewer opportunities, less professional growth, lower pay and you’ll be surrounded by people lacking ambition. There’s no free lunch.
It’s def an NYC thing. I remember being shocked by that when I first went. The office is life and people get fulfillment out of making that your group. It’s chiller elsewhere
I think it’s the industry. I mean of course NYC is extra intense, but I worked in advertising in Pittsburgh (small market) before moving here, and there were many times we were ordering dinner at the office there as well.
I’ve worked in Chicago, NYC and Austin. Agency hours are crazy no matter where you live.