Is all big 4 up and out model? What if you don’t want to eventually make Partner...? Do they eventually coach you out? Or can you just be a great senior manager or director till you retire?

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I honestly don’t think that would bother me if being a partner isn’t my goal.

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No. Its not all up or out. It depends on need, pipeline, what group you are in etc

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Would you still want to be a Sr mgr when in 10 years your staff becomes your partner.

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Room for all kinds. Your goals may change over time too.

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That’s what MD/ED is for.. there are still ways to go up without becoming partner. Making partner isn’t for everyone. The clock does start ticking when you get to SM, but for most of the levels you can take as long as you need. That’s why I don’t understand why so many people have issues with career seniors.

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At EY you can be executive director. That’s an end goal other than partner and is a pretty good deal (better hours than partner, less stress than partner, no where near as much money as partner, but more than SM)

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I’d like to know too

Career seniors are not common, but can happen depending on needs (frankly most firms need seniors more than managers and up). With that said though, I think there will come a point where you will just feel like you’ve reached the end of the road in terms of career development and feel more than ready to move on. Just go with the flow.

Clock starts ticking at SM. You’re too highly paid to keep you as a mediocre SM. It’s up or out after 8 years of SM unless you have a very specialized/unique skill not easily replaceable in the market.

Career seniors hit a salary ceiling really early though

I would definitely want to get higher than senior, just see how much partners work and working that much once I have a family doesn’t interest me.

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