Is anyone concerned about the sudden push by incoming experts for another nationwide lockdown? Enough is enough already, and I think it would be the final blow to a lot of families. Not to mention, at least in my own opinion, it’s not constitutional on its face. I suppose they could do it the same way they do the drinking age (i.e, threaten federal funding to states who don’t comply. Reasonable minds can disagree, and not putting this out there to get personally attacked 🙏

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Oh wowowowow look kids, another constitutional scholar!

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Thanks A6. Again, starting to hate this app. Seems folks more interested in attacking each other instead of having a conversation.

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I’ve been “locked down” here on the east coast since March. Have not hugged my family members or been indoors anywhere aside from quick trips to the grocery store while masked. Our office has been shut the whole time. If you are not financially suffering due to the lockdown (which I believe it is the governments responsibility to alleviate), and if you don’t have school age children (pandemic parenting presents a whole host of difficulties), then I say suck it up. I’m frustrated that people who are able to isolate refuse to because it’s just making my isolation last longer.

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Unfortunately, the government is NOT alleviating the financial pain, and many people do have children; another lockdown is going to be tough for those people. Sucking it up won't be an option.

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I guess we also have to take into an account we’re in a profession where everyone is rooting for it so they don’t have to go back into the office ever 😂

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As an extreme loner, I found common ground with many others, including attorney colleagues, in Susan Cain’s “Quiet: The power of introverts in a world that can’t stop talking”

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I agree it sucks and I recognize that it hurts many people financially. I also recognize that I have the luxury of working from home for a firm that’s doing pretty well. But if the alternative is the number of cases (and relatedly deaths) goes up significantly (as it likely will once the cold weather comes), I don’t see an alternative to locking down if that’s the best option. Saying I’m tired of it is not a response. My annoyance is not more important that someone else’s health (and certainly not their life).

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I haven’t actually seen advocacy of amother total lockdown. I’ve seen lots of advocacy for National mask mandates and normalizing better social distancing efforts though, which I support.

I also disagree that we are just delaying the inevitable. Vaccines are on the horizon. Pfizer may start distribution before year end, and AstraZeneca isn’t far behind. That should protect our most vulnerable populations and allow for loosening of restrictions a little more.

Finally, and this is going to bother some folks, I just don’t understand all of the talk of how people cannot emotionally handle these restrictions. First off, there is actually a fair amount of latitude allowed in the restrictions. Secondly, toughen up buttercups. We are talking about relatively minor changes in our lives compared to the major life events of generations that came before us (world wars, etc.).

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A5 don’t forget that for some who suffer from substance abuse or mental health issues, personal interactions are so important to their recovery and well-being. The death toll of COVID should consider those folks who died from suicide and overdose as well.

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I’m not concerned. I think it’s coming after people spend thanksgiving with more ppl than they should. The problem with the first lockdown is that it didn’t really happen except in maybe NY and Cali. In other places people didn’t ever actually stop doing what they were doing and it was a slow and steady climb. Think about it in places where you live in detached homes and have cars you should be able to stop this with sensible measures but the problem is people didn’t take them. And then one day it seemed like people decided it was over and we could start opening back up.

I think this half stepping is hurting people more than a full honest lockdown for say a month and a restart.

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I definitely think people are fatigued. Hell im fatigued right. Bc I did it what I think is properly for five plus months. I didn’t even get in a cab until maybe a month ago for a doctors appt. I’m a person who travelled internationally five or six times a year. And that’s the screwed up part. It was enough to impose on people’s lives without being enough to be functional. I also think it discredits they idea that it could work because people will say we tried that and it didn’t work. It underscores the need to have a strong national message as opposed to piecemeal local control. However I appreciate that there are not the same considerations in nyc as there are in rural Alabama.

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If it helps you feel better Fauci just said he’s not in favor of another lock down on GMA

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If people wear masks and social distance.

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What’s the alternative to hospitals being overwhelmed if we don’t lockdown?

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Death

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No, I read the suggestions was a 4 to 6 week period. And if that’s what it takes right at the beginning of the year, so that I can go on a plane to visit my fam, take a vacation to another state and not quarantine when I get there, or see a damn movie in a theater, then I’m all for it. Everyone who says they are not open to another lockdown just failed the marshmallow test. It’s just too bad the last lockdown was fruitless due to the incompetence of the current administration.

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What would be different about a lockdown under the new administration? I thought the last one was really up the states, no?

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What’s clear from the first round of lock downs is it only delayed the inevitable and it isn’t sustainable. I’m very concerned. Both my wife and I couldn’t handle another round.

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No one thought the first round of lockdowns was going to cure the virus. The point was to keep the virus from getting to the levels it’s gotten to now where hospitals in some areas don’t have enough staff or beds to treat the sick and don’t have enough space to store the dead safely. It’s called flattening the curve. It wasn’t implemented particularly well here, but it did help a LOT, both here and in Europe.

We have an end in sight with the vaccine and we have a clear and intense problem RIGHT NOW with hospitals getting overloaded.

I’d say the solution is a lockdown now, focused on the areas with the highest affected areas (I have not heard anyone seriously push for a nationwide lockdown treating all areas the same), followed by a phased reopening with much stricter social distancing than we’ve been accomplishing (maybe just better messaging from the next White House administration will help), followed by vaccine, followed by normal life.

Not saying any kind of lockdown or social distancing is easy or pleasant. I’m saying it’s better than the alternative.

Dying of a disease is one thing. Dying of a curable/treatable disease due to a lack of available healthcare resources in one of the world’s richest countries is another, where we saw the health system getting overloaded, we knew a lockdown would help, but we deliberately didn’t take steps we could have taken to save folks from winding up in that situation because we couldn’t stand some temporary discomfort.

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I agree with you OP. I'm exhausted and don't know if my husband and I will mentally survive another lockdown. And our economy certainly cannot sustain another one.

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Personally, I can’t survive another lockdown.

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So if you can’t survive another lockdown does that mean you are feeling suicidal? If so, reach out, get love from those who would hate to see you exit.

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Found Justice Alito!

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It’s going to happen on a county/state level. It’s pretty much inevitable at this point.

I am worried if they don’t have a nationwide lockdown

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