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Is anyone else tired of hearing people talk about all of the things our seniors are missing out on? I’m so tired of this entitlement situation. Yes, it would be nice to have a graduation and end of the year activities. But these things are not owed to anyone. How about being grateful for survival? There are students all over the world that seem to get along just fine without senior activities.

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Not at all. When a kid goes through heartbreak...Or when they're getting bullied... Do you tell them to suck it up, at least you are surviving. I feel even posing this question shows a real lack of empathy. People are missing out on things they'd love to do. They have a right to be disappointed. Simply saying you are alive get over it is ludicrous.

Kids are not only missing out on memories we all were able to have. Some are missing out on sporting seasons they were hoping could help them reach their academic dreams. They are missing out on their last true moments with people they have grown up with. They are children and have a right to be upset and hurt. It is not entitled... it is being human.

Perhaps instead of resenting them for wanting to be happy, do whatever you can to make their year enjoyable. Talk to them and help them understand. Try to make them feel better.

But to say suck it up and survive? That seems wrong and cruel. They are children going through a hard time. Life is about more than just survival sometimes...its about happiness, and as teachers, we should make sure to try to add whatever happiness we can to students who are losing out on memories they were going to cherish, not condemn them for being sad.

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California High School, I was just talking the other day about how some kids from small towns that are popular don’t fair well when they go to college. We saw it over and over again with the graduating classes. Super popular kids going off to college and getting depressed and dropping out. I don’t hear of it near as much at a large urban setting. People like my sister, in which high school was a miserable experience, went on to college to have an amazing experience.

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My thoughts are that it's mostly adults telling them what they're missing. I see and hear so many adults talk about how bad it is, but the kids don't really know what they mean. Noone put a lot of pressure on my nephew last year about missing graduation. The town and school came up with safe alternatives such as a car parade, which I hope continues. He and his friends took it in stride. Other people who freaked out about what the kids were missing, had unhappy kids. Honestly those adults seem more upset they aren't able to relive the experience through the kids.

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Here's the thing... one of my seniors died in.a car accident this fall. Another was injured seriously and will never be the same.
Some of my kids have lost family members. Some have worked long hours to help pay the bills. A few have bad grades because they are helping younger brothers and sisters with school before seeing to their own school.
I get how we see complaints about homecoming, prom, etc. might sound petty.
But it is easier to articulate the tangible things than to voice the true loss and pain.

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As someone who had a senior last year, I think these things are very important to the kids as much as the parents. It hurt that my first born missed out out everything except homecoming but what hurt even more was the way that it affected him. He didn't verbalize it, but I could tell by his response to things. Since I was not around my senior students in the spring, I am not sure if it affected them in this same way, but I can only imagine that it did. Senior activities are incredibly important to the students. Maybe not every individual student, but to all students in general. As educators, we need to take the impact that the loss of such events has on the mental status of or students. Have a heart and don't think that it is just prom or just homecoming; it is their connection to their peers and their school which plays a vital role in their education.

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I'm okay with the kids themselves being sad about it, if that's how they feel. I'm not okay with the adults around them being dramatic about it. In a lot of cases, I feel like it's the adults hyping it up and essentially telling the kids they were robbed/should feel upset about it. It's actively harmful to them creating that narrative.

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I’ve been reading through a lot of posts on this thread and agreed a little with each side of the main argument, but your response hit the nail on the head for me. Our kids are so resilient, and they are learning more about empathy, strength, compassion, and making their way through tough times than we are giving them credit for. It’s the parents and even some of the adults in the school that seem to be the most dramatic. THAT’S what I’m over. If my students express being upset or bummed about different events, I’m 100% there for them and will do what I can to talk them through it. But I’m over the adults freaking out. I’m too exhausted to hear it anymore from them.

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Maybe because your son or daughter is not a senior.

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It is also an ending line for great friendship and relationships. An ending line for years of hard work. An ending line for athletes playing their last game. An ending line for childhood and all the memories that went with it.

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Please remember that the students had to EARN these privileges: grad night, walking down the aisle for graduation, senior picnics, prom night, etc.  these events are not just fun times that got canceled. They are end-goals that students worked to achieve for many years. 

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Don’t many of your students earn it through behavior and grades? My previous district excluded students who didn’t have senior status and weren’t going to graduate on time and those who had more than 5 referrals.

I can understand what California is saying. My own kid lost out on everything senior last year and now this year as a freshman in college. I keep saying your generation will be like the ones who talk about the depression. Yes it’s sucked, but you made it through and had to sacrifice. They will look back differently many years from now and hopefully understand a prom or walking for a diploma does not define you or the rest if your life.

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I agree with Michigan in that my daughter was a senior last year. She was bothered beyond belief last March, she’s more resilient than she was before. There was a graduation drive by, a prom of ten in the back yard. Instead of living on campus, she and a friend got a cheap apartment and go to school on line. It offers students the opportunity to problem solve and build resilience. Of course it’s so lousy, but there are some silver linings

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I think it's ok to be sad that you missed out on the things that you were looking forward to, but to also be grateful for the things that you have in the grand scheme of things. (I do think it might be easier for most adults to understand this concept over a teenager, though.) 🤷🏾‍♀️

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My guess would be their parents in the era of the great depression did not discuss with children or did not verbalize it an any way. They most likely were not told anything. I would also hypothesize the parents in the great depression, if they told them anything at all about it, said something along the lines of suck it up, there is nothing we can do but survive. But again, most likely, were not told anything.

Not really to be honest. Senior year is a big deal to some kids. It sucks, and so do a bunch of things. I have no problem letting folks pine about wishing things were different. Especially if it makes them feel better and...
As long as they end the pity party and get back to work.

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We don't have to be like the other countries all over the world though California. That's part of what makes America great! I just feel that people should be given a choice of senior participation. The group that doesn't feel safe doesn't have to participate and the group that wants their senior day and recognition should be able to have it. Freedom of choice should be an option.

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It can be safely done. We had a graduation last year in our stadium. Seats were spread out. Each kid got a mask with out mascot on it. There was a limit of visitors. 4 per family. It was very nice. So far it looks like we are going to have a graduation.

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Can it be annoying? Yes. Are there people who can't see the forest for the trees? Yes. What are we going to do about it? It's all about perspective and distance. I complained about a lot of things during my time in Iraq. The day after my close friend died in my arms I did not want to hear anyone complain about the weather, the dust, the politicians or the media. A couple of months later, I was complaining about stuff again, but in a different way. It's human nature to focus inwardly during suffering. Our students expressing that loss is better than them swallowing it and never working thorough it. Unfortunately, I've not seen any real effort in my district to help our students process what they've lost and build the perspective and resilience they will need out of this experience in order to succeed in a challenging world. Hopefully, some of you work in districts that are stepping up to that plate.

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Not at all tired of it. Senior year is very special to many kids. This year sucked for them. They deserve more! I also have a senior. I’d be surprised if anyone who has a senior feels they had a fine year?? Especially NOT in NY. Teachers are trying their best but everything fun and social has been removed.

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As a parent of a current senior, I have tried to put a positive spin on my son’s senior year. He has spent almost his school year as a virtual student and seems pretty content. I’m more disappointed than he is at this point, but as long as he is content I’m going to keep a smile on my face.

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Not at all tired of it. If anything I AM tired of seeing impact this is having on the social/emotional life of our students. Graduation, prom, the last sporting event etc are all huge milestones to be missed. My own daughter missed out on a proper college graduation and sadly she will never get another chance to graduate from college. It’s time to return to normal life and living!

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Agreed! Normalcy needs to return! Enough of this living in fear! (I'm also speaking as a parent of a senior.)

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Some of these kids had real chances at sports scholarships and are going to miss out on them. For some of these kids, that was their ticket to college. To be tired of hearing complaining when your students are missing out on these opportunities?! Come on. Our school has at least 5 athletes that could be up for scholarship opportunities and now? I don’t know. It’s sad.

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What if your pension & health benefits were taken away, would you have a different opinion? I bet so. But, you expect it.

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I'm tired of teachers who refuse to go back to school. All students should have been back in school on day one, without restrictions.

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My issue is this., people who claim they can’t be around others because they might get sick. So I want to know other peoples thoughts. I was “un-“ friended by a coworker because I asked him “So...if you can’t go to work because you can’t wear a mask and you can’t take a chance to get sick because you can’t wear a mask around children then why are you going to the store, restaurants and social events where there are lots of people with and without masks while you are not wearing a mask?” It’s those who find the loopholes that bother me the most. Another coworker, who I work closely with, gets sick at the drop of a tissue- flu, scarlet fever, strep throat, cold, you name it. She is not allowed to return. And she doesn’t go out unless she has too. I think what people are tired of is those who bend the rules and abuse the system.

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I have a senior. He has no idea what he is missing because he never had it to begin with. I, however, truly want that graduation moment. Owed or not it has been a struggle to get to this point and I want it!

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I agree. I have students I have helped through the years and love to see them walk the stage. I know how hard they struggled to get to that point and feel they deserve to shine for one night.

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16 STATES NOW WITH NO MASK MANDATES AND FULLY OPEN FOR BUSINESS..... 🇺🇸🇺🇸
Alaska
Arizona
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Iowa
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
North Dakota
Oklahoma
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
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I understand that counties and school districts can have different rules. But it’s not being directed by their governor

Life happens and that’s when the most creative among us shine and new traditions are born.

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Love this, very positive

No, I am not sick of hearing about my daughter complaints about her losses. My daughter graduated from HS in 2020, and our children look forward and many worked hard to receive the accolades and be celebrated for their achievements. It is not entitlement for those HS seniors, they earned those senior activities and did not get it... I cannot imagine what that feel like, and only hope my daughter’s children do not experience these losses....

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