Is asking first year associates to hit 215 billable hours normal?!

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Not as a matter of course. If there’s that much work there’s that much work. But it’s not usual.

It's so gratifying to hear this. I billed over 300 as a junior and asked for more help and was told to "suck it up" - I left that firm the following year

That is insane and raises suspicion for billing fraud. That’s not long term sustainable for almost any human being without fraud or a lot of drugs. 3600ish hours a year is like being on trial for every day for 12 months, and it can’t possibly be enjoyable. Honestly, if you’re gonna work that much just go to a plaintiffs firm (or start your own), negotiate a cut of the fees and grind out as many slip and falls and car accidents , etc. as humanly possible and you’ll be a multi millionaire in 5 years.

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Yeah. Should be hitting 300.

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Only if you’re getting paid $300,000 a year or more.

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Is there enough money in the world for that tho?

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HAHA I’m a 4th year and barely hit 150

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Never heard of a firm with a billable requirement of close to 2600 a year and if such a firm exists, the caliber and quality of its work and its culture must be abysmal

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No

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LOL

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No

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No.

There are circumstances when you will. I was lucky to second chair a couple of trials my first year. Those are hard months.

But to ask this as the monthly norm is objectively unreasonable.

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Big nope.

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FYA ID here. 155 is the requirement and we earn 120 per hour on top of that. I'm usually at 180 a month

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Base is 90k in CA. Not great but not bad after bonus

What?

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Depends. Are you working in big law?

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Run. Not worth it...

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Only in work comp.

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I’m in comp making 85k I’m in my second year now. Extremely conservative billing no assistant no understanding of how to “gain time” and have been straight up told not to bill straight time on some things. At a complete loss of direction and wondering if my firm is the problem my practice area or both

Not at all. You should hit 280

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He's BAAAACK

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How was it framed? If they specifically asked you that you must hit 215 billables, that’s weird. On the other hand, if your group is busy and if they’re asking you to work on more deals (or case) and you’re already over 200 billables, then that’s just par for the course. I’ve definitely had rows of 250 and 300 billables shortly after starting due to crazy deals.

Asking a first year to bill 215 a month is definitely not normal. Expecting them to bill 215 is completely normal at a lot of firms.

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I’m a first year and I hit 270 or so in February. It hurt. Private equity m&a.

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