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Spent less than 2 years at Deloitte. Started recruiting before year 1 was even over. Toxic environment. I still have actual PTSD and I am seeing therapist uniquely on the harm that Deloitte did to my brain. Even now at McK I’m suspicious of anything that seem “normal” wondering who will backstab me, what leader will throw me off the cliff. I reached the top but somehow my Deloitte experience is still chocking me.
Spot on in your assessment, except that I did not realised its impact on my overall physic. Thanks for connecting the dot as recently I have mistrust for everyone including in personal life. Thanks again.
True story: after 3 years with the firm, I was suffering severe anxiety. Already had GAD but firm was certainly exacerbating. I went to see a therapist, and it turns out she had started her career at Deloitte before starting her career as a therapist. After three sessions, she “fired” me as a client and said, “I’m sorry, you don’t need therapy, you just need to leave Deloitte.”
I wish I was making this up.
Same!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There are some crazy people here. Can you help us escape?
D is that bad. I was there for longer than I should have been. I got shafted so many times at year end, I don't care to remember. One year I was denied promotion so some partner could get his little minion promoted who didn't have a clue. I literally would go in meetings and this person would never talk as they had no clue what to say so I'd run the meeting and do the work.
Leaving there was the best move of my career. There are some good people there and some decent partners, but they were pretty few and far between. Promotion was more about who you know, rather than what you could do or how competent your work was.
I never been yelled at with such vitriol for something I didn't do. I heard expletives hurled my way for something I didn't do and had the paper trail to prove it if only the clueless MD would stop and take time to read his email rather than threaten me and a colleague that if he was going down, he was going to take us m*fkers with him. Real class act that guy was.
That was the day my colleague and I decided it was time to leave the firm. So if you love hearing all the curse words known to humankind used in a 30 min discussion and to be threatened with both physical harm as well as ending your career, then I have an exciting opening for you at Deloitte. We both escalated this to leadership. That human piece of excrement is still working there and likely abusing other people.
K3 sounds like we worked for the same MD. Or, the toxic culture is so common and pervasive at Deloitte
It is. And it has become like that in last 2 years. I’ve seen this firm change for worse and I’ve been with them for over 8 years now. Looking to exit as soon as I can.
LMAO there is no way the firm went from good to bad in 2 years. Your experiences do no mean it's universal.
It’s great if you’re a new hire because you’re financially compensated but we have no interest in paying our employees so see it as a stop on the career journey. Not a destination
Toxicity depends on the Partner / Team. Unfortunately, the new hires get on the worst ones because the existing people get staffed by the greatest partners
I was asked to relocate for my industry and then denied relocation money as “my move was technically voluntary”. I was screwed over on rating and bonus and promotion path due to military leave even while hitting 5x sales / managed revenue targets in a partial year. I was told off record, in person by senior leadership that i would not make PMD with military service (which by the way built a massive network by which we / I drove relationships). I had senior leaders curse me out and have dealt with multiple HR complaints for senior leaders, married with families, hook up with analysts or attempt to do so in a quid pro quo manner.
Deloitte is toxic, only cares about the bottom line and in no way cares about you as an individual. Get out if you can with your integrity and values intact.
Wow you should’ve sued them for a lot of things. Congrats on leaving D for BCG!
But it’s Deloitte!
D might be a reach bud Harvard is probably still realistic
D internal politics:
Worked with a lot of ex-Deloitte people and they never seem to look back nor miss the culture. Yes, they are definitely more established and “mature” with their consulting practice as they never had to sell it off, but I’ve heard that this also brought on very conservative and standardized ways of working and thinking and doesn’t always bode well with the new demographic entering the workforce at Deloitte or for people who just cannot stand that type of culture at Deloitte anymore.
But like in any well-known “brand” employer, for every person that hates working there and leaves, there are tons of people in line waiting to get an interview and job there.
Deloitte is such a big place that your experience depends on the team. I had an amazing time in one geography / OU and a dreadful experience in another geography / OU.
I am happy, 4 years in. Never had a bad project or client experience. No one has treated me poorly. I work 40-45 hours a week and take home no work or work stress. LOA policies are great and didn’t kill my promotions. I do a lot of nonprofit stuff as my initiatives which I enjoy. I do know of others who have been on bad projects with poor management, of course.
Rising Star
I averaged 50+ hours a week in the last performance year. A number of 80 hour weeks and a few straight 40-45 when I only worked a 4 day week. I’d say 50-60 is normal when working a 5 day work week and weekends maybe 1-2 per month. GPS here.
It’s a misnomer that people don’t work hard in GPS I think.
Wow. I’ve never had problems with stress until joining Deloitte. My SM is so bad on my current project that I’m on medication for the stress and related headaches. I can’t wait to leave.
That’s so crazy. i hope you’re doing better!! I had sleep issues within 3-4 months of joining because of the stress and pressure. It seems like some SMs feel they have to be super tough and abrasive to get promoted to PPMDs and those below suffer.
6 months ago I was ready to leave for industry because of job stability but now I want to leave for just better wlb and my mental health. I would lateral out for the right opportunity.
Run and stay away if you value your sanity
Yup!
Ok not talking about salary either. I’m well
Compensated. But over last 2 years the focus is all
About bottom line and PMD unit values. The empathy I’ve seen has eroded slowly. WLB is in a gutter of course
I joined a few months before Covid. Many people I’ve met are been nice. A few projects have been interesting. That being said, I’ve dealt with some total a-hole SMs and PPMDs on projects and the wlb has been horrible at times. It’s nothing I haven’t seen in other consulting firms but I’m tired of accepting this type of work culture. I’d exit to industry if the right opportunity comes along.
Better than kpmg
Rising Star
K2 - The culture was better a few years ago before new leadership took over. Now it’s the same political morass you’d find at Accenture and Deloitte (among other firms to be fair).
All sizzle, no steak? No thanks. Follow the money instead...
Yo D fish, salary is not a con for this particular benchmark
Your mileage may vary.
Nah it’s not that bad