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Hi, I received the below offer for L65 Principal Program Manager (non tech) at Microsoft in Atlanta. I have 12 YOE in strategy consulting. Can somebody with experience with MS please advise if this is good or lowball? The recruiter mentioned that this is max for Atlanta and anything else will require an “exception” process. I don’t think I want to risk losing the offer. Thanks!!
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Bny taken all 3 interview on Saturday & cleared all. #1 Code pair + technical #2 Cross functional #3 Bar raiser . On Monday, HR asked me to send require documents but not scheduled any HR discussion call. I sent docs to HR. Is there any HR discussion call happening in BNY ? How much time BNY takes to release offer post document submission/HR discussion ? BNY Mellon | Pershing Bny mellon technology BNY Mellon BNY
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I have no complaints.
Salary is nice considering I work sub 45 hour weeks usually.
Travel is there if I want it, plus we get a pretty good per diem so you can save a loooot.
Exit ops tend to scale lower, but not dramatically, same with projects, slower paced, can be demoralizing sometimes
Overall I’m content, I get paid within 80-90 of my commercial peers, for 10-20 hours less per week
Thanks! I was recently discouraged (by someone not working federal) from applying to a federal focused position instead of commercial, so I'm just trying to see what's the big deal.
Honestly I love fed and would never switch to commercial. I feel good about the work I do with the government and my pay isn’t bad! WLB is great, too.
I love it 🤷🏼♀️ People say it depends, but that goes for every job. Working with gov clients can sometimes be slow moving and frustrating, but again I think that just comes with working in client services (your clients are going to be frustrating for some reason or another) However I would say it’s true that the projects can typically be quite long.
Also the automatic “you get paid less” isn’t always true. I currently make 20k more than my friend working at PwC (same position and very similar experience and background).
I work more hours and have to travel in commercial. Used to only do Fed work with no travel and <= 50 hour weeks.
On the flip side, I make 40% more than I had been and have been learning more because of the extra demands on the projects. I think it depends on your preference but I wish I had done commercial earlier in my career and Fed later
Partner here. Have only ever done federal and live it. Have gotten offers from competitors for commercial, but would never switch
Can you explain “customer strategy” and “M&A” work within fed?
It’s especially not bad if you have a young family 💁🏻♂️
✅ Home each night
✅ Parental leave
✅ Telework 1+ day per week is typical
No. In our federal group. Pay is the same as commercial and the projects are fun (usually Ops strategy).
Same as D1. I know I could get more pay but don't want to work the extra hours. It's ok.
It definitely depends on the situation. But typically it’s less hours, less stress, and more boring than commercial
Have done both. Federal has better WLB, people are nicer and less intense, clients are more chill. On the other hand, pay is lower, bonus is less, work (at least in my field) is less interesting. I see some people stick around in federal for their entire careers whereas people tend to get burned out from commercial after a few years
Bad answer but I think it depends, the cards you get can he good or bad but when comparing commercial vs federal I think federal has worst odds
It depends on the team you land on. Some will understaff and you end up doing the job of three people and working crazy hours you can’t bill...
Lots of great insights here