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It's okay until it's not. If someone politely asks you to stop saying guys, politely oblige and ask for their recommendation on a preferred greeting.
If someone is being a jerk about, feel free to keep saying it or simply use a truly absurd greeting in its stead such as "Felicitations Fam!" or "What Be At It?"
Personally I just say "______, gang" because it's very easy to pivot from "guy" to "gang" and if someone has a problem with "gang" they can shove it
(I’m male). Maybe weird, but for some reason my team (more often when it’s just guys than mixed company) use the phrase “just between us girls”, which I think is hilarious. Therefore... I think “hey guys” (also common on the team) is OK 👍🏼
Also, I usually use “Hey Team!” (I’m an excitable individual).
I always say hello living organisms to be safe
Let me figure out how I’m offended by this. BRB
Chief
Why is it so difficult for people to say “hey everyone” and not worry about potentially offending anyone 🤦♂️
op, because no matter what you say or do, someone out there will always be offended
Pro
Doesnt bother me as a woman
As a woman I wouldn’t think twice about it
Don’t care in the slightest
THANK YOU!
‘Sup dawgs - gender and person identifier neutral. The 90’s and 00’s failed us in many ways. This is not one of them.
Hey y’all!
I usually just go no contraction for internal emails
Anybody that really cares is just going to have to get over it. Like really, where do we draw the line
Exactly. I’m going to speak my mind and talk how I talk. I’m not spending a lifetime walking on eggshells to appease.
My immediate report is a woman and she says it all the time.
I think this is one of those situations where it isn’t an issue whatsoever, but people make it out to be one unnecessarily. Not every general comment is sexist or has anything to do with gender whatsoever, and attempts to make things like this an issue undermines the real issues (e.g. pay inequalities) and detracts from real improvements.
I still mess up and say it; I’ve used the phrase my whole life but I do recognize the argument that it’s misogynistic/sexist by normalizing the masculine form as being the “standard” of a mixed group. In contrast the double standard is not feeling it appropriate to refer to a mixed group as “hey girls/ladies.” IMO I’m just trying to retrain myself quickly and move on
This describes me too. I literally never even considered that it could be offensive before some mentioned it (didn't call me out but was referring to someone else using the term). It still comes out naturally but I do catch myself more and more.
The woke mob is out of control. It is bananas that one would have to ask if it’s ok to use the term ‘guys.’ This whole gender neutral identity thing needs to run its course.
Are you really this comfortable in your biases?
Pro
Always use “Hi all,” its less characters and is gender neutral. Keep it simple.
Pro
Cool beans... you do you!
Hey queens is better
Yooose guys
Chicago?
Hey fuckers
Hi All works just as well.
Rising Star
“Yo yo yo my potentially but not necessarily gendered homies”
HEYYYY YOOOUUUU GUYYYYYYSSSS!
Flashbacks to my childhood in Jersey...
You’re getting fired for asking this
Rising Star
As a guy, I’m offended that my gendered pronoun has been appropriated to mean anyone... /s in case it wasn’t obvious.
I like doing the Texan version of y’all though. It seems more fun to me, and that’s what I will choose to optimize.
Chief
I’m a woman and don’t notice or care.
I also don’t think it’s worth creating an issue if it’s easily avoidable. I use Hi Team/Everyone/All or list recipient names in order or hierarchy. Y’all in casual call scenarios because I’m in the south too.